China Flanker Thread II

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davidau

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Referring to no.6780 ...That was in accordance in Chinese media; their numbering system may be different. As there are now 5 Brigades, it is quite plausible that the 3rd was now coated with the full stealth coating and armed with a larger diameter active phase array radar..the rest may follow..
 

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Referring to no.6780 ...That was in accordance in Chinese media; their numbering system may be different. As there are now 5 Brigades, it is quite plausible that the 3rd was now coated with the full stealth coating and armed with a larger diameter active phase array radar..the rest may follow..


Then please give a source and not again Sina!

Jobjed clearly said they are from the 40th Brigade (#6780), even Huitong confirms (?)
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a 65x1x serial number which fits nicely to the 40th Brigade and I cannot think any reason to assume the PLAAF is changing again its serial system.
 

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Referring to no.6780 ...That was in accordance in Chinese media; their numbering system may be different. As there are now 5 Brigades, it is quite plausible that the 3rd was now coated with the full stealth coating and armed with a larger diameter active phase array radar..the rest may follow..

We must be part of the club of people who are well seen and not all are ... o_O

The matter is difficult coz even serial numbers are not always a proof and birds in a base can also be in visit...

I have see 90 J-16 in service some for tests, in one OCU so nomaly " only " 2 full front line units

CH JH-7B, J-16.jpg
 

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The matter is difficult coz even serial numbers are not always a proof and birds in a base can also be in visit...

Surely not. The point that a certain unit might be on a visit is probaby an argument, but I know no case in where a serialnumber was faked to fool us. Again, the number 65x1x is not confirmed but likely since mentioned by Huitong and it fits nicely the given base of the 40th Brigade.
 

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Surely not. The point that a certain unit might be on a visit is probaby an argument, but I know no case in where a serialnumber was faked to fool us. Again, the number 65x1x is not confirmed but likely since mentioned by Huitong and it fits nicely the given base of the 40th Brigade.
Seriously ! i have many proof/links to provide and your posts ... and even Henri K had say some Chinese spotters hide intentionaly.
 

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Seriously ! i have many proof/links to provide and your posts ... and even Henri K had say some Chinese spotters hide intentionaly.


Then please go ahead and post proof of this theory. I don't mean hiding a serial numbers but faking them to fool the true identity or assignment to a base.
 

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Then please go ahead and post proof of this theory. I don't mean hiding a serial numbers but faking them to fool the true identity or assignment to a base.
Just one example for all types ofc " psed " or fake or blurred etc... many posts from you or your not sure

psed 82011 serial number
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pla-aew-c-sigint-ew-and-mpa-thread.t951/page-191#post-507095

Your question remains surprising never have this feeling with Jeff or Popeye curious...damage ! and not new even before issues just a remark no offense.
 
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Just one example for all types ofc " psed " or fake or blurred etc... many posts from you or your not sure

psed 82011 serial number
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pla-aew-c-sigint-ew-and-mpa-thread.t951/page-191#post-507095

Your question remains surprising never have this feeling with Jeff or Popeye curious...damage ! and not new even before issues just a remark no offense.

I think you once again got me wrong, not entirely sure why?? ... but let's try it again step by step:

1. we have rumours that the 40th Air Division is under conversion since some time, we now have an image showing two J-16s with partially psed serial numbers that at least "could" be 65x1x, a number that is confirmed by Huitong and fits to the 40th AD ... also, the air base is recognised as the 40th AD's home base. So I agree with you, that's not a hard proof, but at least some strong hints that indeed the 40th AD now uses J-16s.

2. You however replied with "The matter is difficult coz even serial numbers are not always a proof and birds in a base can also be in visit..."

3. I replied that it is given the facts mentioned in point 1 unlikely that these numbers are faked and even added that there are indeed serial numbers erased but barely faked (= "I don't mean hiding a serial numbers but faking them to fool the true identity or assignment to a base."). To admit I agreed, that a visit from another unit for familiarisation but you again replied ...:

4. ... with an image I first thought to be faked but that turned out to be correct !
(just look here: https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pla-aew-c-sigint-ew-and-mpa-thread.t951/page-191#post-507906)
So what does it prove?? IMO only that a KQ-200 from the 8th Naval Air Division has visited Shanghai most likely for familiarisation.


So again I ask you to post an image where an aircraft was seen on a certain base with an incorrect number - and not like these KQ-200 which were from the 8th Naval Air Division on a visit in Shanghai - only applied to fool us??

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I have see 90 J-16 in service some for tests, in one OCU so nomaly " only " 2 full front line units

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By the way, what do you want to tell us with this image??

It shows a wrongly depicted JH-7B - with several details completely wrong - armed with a YJ-12 (IMO unlikely or even impossible) plus a J-16 also YJ-12-armed (IMO also unlikely or even impossible).
 
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