China Flanker Thread II

[FORBIN]

careful their master Forbin, best not to get on the "Charles Xavier" of the SDF's bad side??? really, he teaches school all week long?? does tend at times to build frustration, and he obviously expects his SDF students to "get their work" at a reliable source, use quotation marks, and cite their sources?? LOL

You know a Charles Xavier LOL

Deino, want pic with number !

Today maybe new ? seems

 

[by78]

More high-resoluton photos of J-11B and BH from the recent Sino-Pakistan joint exercise...

 

[kurutoga]

Can China export J-11D (using WS10) to Pakistan?

 

[Zahid]

There are reports of Pakistan & Russia discussing arms purchase for PAF, possibly latest flankers. If these reports have substance then Pakistan is not a likely customer for J-11.

 

[Totoro]

No one but China can buy j11. That's likely in the licence agreement. It's simply not an exportable product for China.

 

[Dizasta1]

There are reports of Pakistan & Russia discussing arms purchase for PAF, possibly latest flankers. If these reports have substance then Pakistan is not a likely customer for J-11.

Yes I have read something on similar lines. Primarily, Pakistan Air Force is very much interested in the Su-35s. There have been talks with Russia, but at this point in time, it's a waiting game. As for the J-11s, I believe that Pakistan and China (Govt to Govt) have a greater understanding of what constitutes if "licensed production aircraft." I wouldn't be so quick to be so dismissive about things, especially when it comes Sino-Pak relations. It is after all, one of the strongest alliances in recorded history. We have had past instances where Pakistan had the opportunity to procure J-10s, however the government was wise enough back then (Musharraf era) to leave it to Pakistan Air Force to decide which course it would take in terms of acquisitions. At this point in time, where the JF-17 Thunder program is in full swing and one after another squadrons are equipping with new aircraft. It is more than likely, that Pakistan Air Force is poised to pursue it's "high-end" fighter. Earmarked for the next 5 year armament plan. Whichever the case, both Su-35s and J-10s are strong candidates for Pakistan Air Force. And yes, I know how people tend to fall back on the "india" card which it comes to Moscow-Islamabad relations. To be blunt, Moscow is far more interested in piling up orders from Algeria, Emirates, Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia. Than to sit there and lament about what if!! They haven't got no time for that sort of thing.

 

[kurutoga]

There are reports of Pakistan & Russia discussing arms purchase for PAF, possibly latest flankers. If these reports have substance then Pakistan is not a likely customer for J-11.

No one but China can buy j11. That's likely in the licence agreement. It's simply not an exportable product for China.

I have a feeling Russia will not sell jets to Pakistan directly, fearing loss of sales to India. Instead, the more feasible solution is China sells J11 to Pakistan then pay a license fee per jet to Russia. This way Russia can blame China when they talk to India

 

[Deino]

I have a feeling Russia will not sell jets to Pakistan directly, fearing loss of sales to India. Instead, the more feasible solution is China sells J11 to Pakistan then pay a license fee per jet to Russia. This way Russia can blame China when they talk to India

Never ever ! China will never sell any J-11 or J-16 to Pakistan, period ... and IMO we really do not discuss this again similar to these IMO boring discussions in the Su-35-thread if the J-11B is an unlicenced copy or not and why the PLAAF bought the Su-35.

By the way here are J-16 78077 & 78078 (via Huitong/CMA)

 

[FORBIN]

Never ever ! China will never sell any J-11 or J-16 to Pakistan, period ... and IMO we really do not discuss this again similar to these IMO boring discussions in the Su-35-thread if the J-11B is an unlicenced copy or not and why the PLAAF bought the Su-35.

By the way here are J-16 78077 & 78078 (via Huitong/CMA)

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New infos for J-16 AESA radar a designation ? i have see 1200 - 1760 modules, quickly a expert say impossible first Chinese generation impossible have 1760 so fast... and graphics medium ... so he say 1200 -1500 ?

In this case without more infos by default ofc max 1500 logic you can not estimate at most with partial or few infos/datas and this is valid for all countries.

 

[SinoSoldier]

New infos for J-16 AESA radar a designation ? i have see 1200 - 1760 modules, quickly a expert say impossible first Chinese generation impossible have 1760 so fast... and graphics medium ... so he say 1200 -1500 ?

In this case without more infos by default ofc max 1500 logic you can not estimate at most with partial or few infos/datas and this is valid for all countries.

1760 modules.