China Flanker Thread II

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Franklin

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PLAAF open admission that J-11BS copy of SU-27SK are unreliable and inferior.
despite the aircraft include more composite material, but load still unable to match SU-27SK
the J-11BS that power by WS-10,rarely fly supersonic, reason, WS10 unrelaible, mechanical problem....etc.
problem also incle metallurgy..
no wonder. China seeking to purchase SU-35
one area, is the avionic.the paper supeior to SU-27SK.

If the J-11B was that disfunctional as the article claims then would the PLAAF have ordered so many of them. And went ahead and created 4 more derivative of it, the J-11BS, J-15, J15S and the J-16.
 

Franklin

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PLAAF open admission that J-11BS copy of SU-27SK are unreliable and inferior.
despite the aircraft include more composite material, but load still unable to match SU-27SK
the J-11BS that power by WS-10,rarely fly supersonic, reason, WS10 unrelaible, mechanical problem....etc.
problem also incle metallurgy..
no wonder. China seeking to purchase SU-35
one area, is the avionic.the paper supeior to SU-27SK.

I can see the deception in that post. The scan on top and the blowout text below are from 2 different articles. Probably from two different magazines. You can see it in the different layout of the two.
 

luhai

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PLAAF open admission that J-11BS copy of SU-27SK are unreliable and inferior.
despite the aircraft include more composite material, but load still unable to match SU-27SK
the J-11BS that power by WS-10,rarely fly supersonic, reason, WS10 unrelaible, mechanical problem....etc.
problem also incle metallurgy..
no wonder. China seeking to purchase SU-35
one area, is the avionic.the paper supeior to SU-27SK.

The same poster on that forum also stated that J-15 can bearly take off and land on land, let alone on carrier... I would say FLG military fan, if there are such a thing.
 

hardware

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the decisiom to adapt WS-10 may have been political,despite the teething problem,it can open the Russian blackmail.surely china remember what happen in 1961,or Egypt in the 70's.
 

Lion

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the decisiom to adapt WS-10 may have been political,despite the teething problem,it can open the Russian blackmail.surely china remember what happen in 1961,or Egypt in the 70's.

Yup! WS-10A is unreliable. So unreliable that PLA top brass like to play the danger game by opting it to power J-16 and J-15S initial prototype for maiden flight.... So much of your crook logic.

If the article claimed J-7G radar is ten times more powerful than APG-80,super cruise at 2 Mach and J-7G RCS is even small than F-22. I wonder will you post it? :confused:
 

vesicles

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no wonder. China seeking to purchase SU-35.

My goodness! You sund like the Chnese already bought the plane... I'm getting extremely tired of people continuously bringing up China signing of deal for Su-35, or why China should buy Su-35, etc. let's make a deal. Lets not mention anything about china buying Su-35 until definitive evidence shows up.
 

Air Force Brat

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The same poster on that forum also stated that J-15 can bearly take off and land on land, let alone on carrier... I would say FLG military fan, if there are such a thing.

Well lots of people would like to bash the Flanker/Sino Flanker, in my humble opinion the Shenyang Flanker is likely built with more care and better avionics, the quality of all Sino products in general has improved 10 fold in the last 10 years, so NO, if anything the Sino Flanker is at the top of the food chain in the Aero Industry. I can fully understand the frustration of my Chinese friends when people who don't know or care, bash the Sino Flanker, which in its LRIP J-15 form is setting the standard as China's first indigenous carrier borne aircraft. I hope you will indulge me with the same consideration when I whine and moan about the BHO administration and their apparent "war on America"...
The Chinese Flanker is a very well built and well thought out aeroplane, when the J-15 is brought up to speed it will be the icing on the cake,,, but like the F-22 excellence is always the target of the folks who fall short, but that very criticism is the assurance that you are doing it right! AFB
 

hardware

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rumor about the purchase of SU-35 may have been internal debate within the PLAAF.reality there was problem regarding the engine but ,out of national pride or patriotism ,most Chinese blogger will simple ignore the reality and embrace a fantasy.
not just on this website but also all the Chinese website .
most Chinese web i seen actually believe that China is high tech country at par with the US or japan.
 

jobjed

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rumor about the purchase of SU-35 may have been internal debate within the PLAAF.reality there was problem regarding the engine but ,out of national pride or patriotism ,most Chinese blogger will simple ignore the reality and embrace a fantasy.
not just on this website but also all the Chinese website .
most Chinese web i seen actually believe that China is high tech country at par with the US or japan.

So.... according to you, China is not a high-tech country? Pardon me, but what type of rock have you been living under for the past 30 years?
 
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