China demographics thread.

[FangYuan]

Foreign wives will solve Chinese population issues???

China is not Singapore. Population issues at a very different level, how many foreign brides are enough, tens of millions, or hundreds of millions? And then there are many problems that will happen: Language, cultural and religious conflicts ... and many other sensitive problems.

Finding foreign wives is not too difficult. But will waste if married to a girl without a degree and cultural level, fluent in native language .... It's not a wife, nature is a breeding machine.

 

[DarkStar]

How about the reverse? Mate guard on the level that the Anglo sphere and white western world mate guards its women with massive propaganda campaigns to make it appear as though white western males are the highest valued males in the sexual market place.
And then you also do what the Anglo white western society does and marginalises whites females who marry non white non caucasians.

 

[Overbom]

Foreign wives will solve Chinese population issues???

China is not Singapore. Population issues at a very different level, how many foreign brides are enough, tens of millions, or hundreds of millions? And then there are many problems that will happen: Language, cultural and religious conflicts ... and many other sensitive problems.

Finding foreign wives is not too difficult. But will waste if married to a girl without a degree and cultural level, fluent in native language .... It's not a wife, nature is a breeding machine.

There is a structural gender imbalance. It is impossible for this to be fixed without introducing foreign wives

According to the Seventh National Population Census conducted in 2020, there were around 723 million male inhabitants and 688 million female inhabitants living in China in 2020, amounting to around 1.41 billion people in total.

 

[Kaeshmiri]

Measures like foreign wives, immigration will barely make a difference on macro scale. Look at how US birth rate is dropping despite admitting 1 million immigrants each year.
Japan, SK has proved that incentives like tax breaks, direct cash, loans, cheaper housing etc don't work.

CPC will have to employ coercive means to ensure high birth rate. Ofcorse it will be unpopular but ultimately society comes first.

 

[FangYuan]

Bringing immigrants in and marrying foreigners do not solve the problem. It just made everything worse. It is the fastest way to destroy China. AS THE CHINESE Say: 饮鸩止渴 (drink poison to quench thirst). It carries the short-term benefits and causes an eternal disaster in the long term.

That's what happened in history

1.During The War of Eight Princes, China Fell Into Chaos, The Warlords Lacked Soldiers, They Chose to Recruit Nomads and Allow Migration Into China, Live and Settle On Chinese Territory. And It Led To The Disaster Of "Five Barbaric Tribes That Destroyed China", The Han People Were Nearly Were Wipe Out By The Barbarians, A Part of Which Had to Move South.

2. During the Tang Dynasty, They Recruited Foreigners, Allowing Citizens of Other Races to Hold High-Ranking Positions in Their Military Apparatus. And It Began To Lead To The An Lushan Rebellion

And China will become a multi-racial society like the United States, South Africa or France now, where every day happen hundreds, thousands of violence and conflict. Everywhere is violent, looting, rape, every few days, a protest happened. IQ and the average height will decrease due to foreign genes, weaken China in the fields of science and technology. In the future Chinese people will change to strange levels: the body and face are completely different from now. China will lose soft power: Imagine a black girl wearing Hanfu, or a guy with Middle East face or Western Role Playing China's Emperor



Like the west audience hated Troy: Fall of A City because it brought Achille's role to a black man. I will not be surprised if the future of the Chinese history movie will flood the actors like racial mixture or Foreigners. The first is polluted blood, then pollute history and culture.

 

[Overbom]

Bringing immigrants in and marrying foreigners do not solve the problem. It just made everything worse. It is the fastest way to destroy China. AS THE CHINESE Say: 饮鸩止渴 (Drink Poison To Quam Thirst). It carries the short-term benefits and causes an eternal disaster in the long term.

That's what happened in history

1.During The War of Eight Princes, China Fell Into Chaos, The Warlords Lacked Soldiers, They Chose to Recruit Nomads and Allow Migration Into China, Live and Settle On Chinese Territory. And It Led To The Disaster Of "Five Barbaric Tribes That Destroyed China", The Han People Were Nearly Were Wipe Out By The Barbarians, A Part of Which Had to Move South.

2. During the Tang Dynasty, They Recruited Foreigners, Allowing Citizens of Other Races to Hold High-Ranking Positions in Their Military Apparatus. And It Began To Lead To The An Lushan Rebellion

And China will become a multi-racial society like the United States, South Africa or France now, where every day happen hundreds, thousands of violence and conflict. Everywhere is violent, looting, rape, every few days, a protest happened. IQ and the average height will decrease due to foreign genes, weaken China in the fields of science and technology. In the future Chinese people will change to strange levels: the body and face are completely different from now. China will lose soft power: Imagine a black girl wearing Hanfu, or a guy with Middle East face or Western Emperor or the general in the movie

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Like the west audience hated Troy: Fall of A City because it brought Achille's role to a black man. I will not be surprised if the future of the Chinese history movie will flood the actors like Hybrid or Foreigners. The first is polluted blood, then pollute history and culture.

You say a lot of things but you still haven't answered how the problem of gender imbalanced is going to be fixed

Currently, there are 40 million more males than females. Please explain how you would solve this problem

 

[FangYuan]

You say a lot of things but you still haven't answered how the problem of gender imbalanced is going to be fixed

Currently, there are 40 million more males than females. Please explain how you would solve this problem

Problem? Even if it can't solve, it is still better than China turns into a pile of garbage. The Chinese government does not open to a large number of immigrants moving into China, because China are not stupid

Measures like foreign wives, immigration will barely make a difference on macro scale. Look at how US birth rate is dropping despite admitting 1 million immigrants each year.
Japan, SK has proved that incentives like tax breaks, direct cash, loans, cheaper housing etc don't work.

I support your views.

 

[gadgetcool5]

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I mean, it's better than nothing, but loans are not really that much of a good incentive, especially if it has to be paid back with interest. At a bare minimum grants will be needed, and they will have to be bigger than typical "cash rewards" that have barely made a dent in other countries (although I don't know why the article says they haven't worked in China, since they only started being rolled out in a few cities at a very small scare a few months ago), such as Japan and South Korea.

There is no one magic bullet but there are many measures that have to be taken. Also, the government should try to get a sense of public opinion and advance pro-natalist policies that are likely to be popular, because ultimately it depends on the public's cooperation to be effective. These policies and commentaries that ignite a backlash online are not a good sign. IMO also paternity leave should be extended to be equal to maternity leave because otherwise, women will be afraid that if they take maternity leave (or if they are suspected of wanting to take it in the future) they'll be fired or won't be hired.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Bringing immigrants in and marrying foreigners do not solve the problem. It just made everything worse. It is the fastest way to destroy China. AS THE CHINESE Say: 饮鸩止渴 (drink poison to quench thirst). It carries the short-term benefits and causes an eternal disaster in the long term.

That's what happened in history

1.During The War of Eight Princes, China Fell Into Chaos, The Warlords Lacked Soldiers, They Chose to Recruit Nomads and Allow Migration Into China, Live and Settle On Chinese Territory. And It Led To The Disaster Of "Five Barbaric Tribes That Destroyed China", The Han People Were Nearly Were Wipe Out By The Barbarians, A Part of Which Had to Move South.

2. During the Tang Dynasty, They Recruited Foreigners, Allowing Citizens of Other Races to Hold High-Ranking Positions in Their Military Apparatus. And It Began To Lead To The An Lushan Rebellion

And China will become a multi-racial society like the United States, South Africa or France now, where every day happen hundreds, thousands of violence and conflict. Everywhere is violent, looting, rape, every few days, a protest happened. IQ and the average height will decrease due to foreign genes, weaken China in the fields of science and technology. In the future Chinese people will change to strange levels: the body and face are completely different from now. China will lose soft power: Imagine a black girl wearing Hanfu, or a guy with Middle East face or Western Role Playing China's Emperor

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Like the west audience hated Troy: Fall of A City because it brought Achille's role to a black man. I will not be surprised if the future of the Chinese history movie will flood the actors like racial mixture or Foreigners. The first is polluted blood, then pollute history and culture.

Is there not 56 different ethnic groups in China? Yet the way you wrote your Mein Kempf sounded like it's only the Han population that matter the rest are non-existent or disposable. No wonder idiots from the west can use your language as some kind of twisted proof in China’s supposed discriminatory practices and non-existent genocide against Uyghur-Chinese and Tibetan-Chinese. I guess the Chinese people who are mixed are not welcome into your "puritan-Han" world eh buddy.

 

[sinophilia]

Is there not 56 different ethnic groups in China? Yet the way you wrote your Mein Kempf sounded like it's only the Han population that matter the rest are non-existent or disposable. I guess the Chinese people who are mixed are not welcome into your "puritan-Han" world eh buddy.

That one ethnic group (Han) is over 90% of the population lol.. White isn't even an ethnic group, it's an entire continental-sized race with multiple highly diverging ethnic groups that are a part of it. I'm not Han, not even close, but the last thing Chinese people need is a desire to increase fracturing and social instability by promoting a bunch of small ethnic groups growth. This always ends in a lack of nationalism and will inevitably lead to each group simply seeing the country as a pot from which to take as much soup as possible before another group takes more. No shared sacrifice, only tribal self-interest.

The last time American demographics were over 90% one ethnic group wasn't in the 1950s when Whites of all kinds (Italians, Germans, English, Irish, Polish, etc.) were over 90% of the country. No, the last time America was >90% one ethnic group was... NEVER.

No wonder idiots from the west can use your language as some kind of twisted proof in China’s supposed discriminatory practices and non-existent genocide against Uyghur-Chinese and Tibetan-Chinese

Who gives a damn what language those idiots use? Why do you care so much? China has been >90% one ethnic group for centuries. Are Chinese supposed to feel self-hate for not having enough Germans or Tibetans or Kazakhs or Indians as a part of their country? Yes, hopefully Chinese can assuage those concerning feelings that narcissistic imperial latte-drinking White liberals have by importing whichever people they choose.