China demographics thread.

PeoplesPoster

Junior Member
Also media representation is important, I don't watch Chinese TV shows, but I think they need to increase messaging about how kids are an important part of Chinese life. Apparently the recent change in media culture in Korea is increasing the birthrates.
They can start by not censoring anything thats remotely sexual. Big part of having babies is making sex more normalized.
 

Biscuits

Colonel
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None of these are enough to make a difference.

Modernity caused this problem, and modernity will have to be the solution: somehow, healthcare has to improve so that people can have longer reproductive/working lifespans, technology has to make pregnancy and childbirth less painful and more convenient, and automation has to make child-rearing cheaper and less tiring/burdensome on parents. Unless all of the above can be accomplished within 50-100 years, humanity will go extinct like the "rat utopia" experiment. There's no other solution; there's no going back to the old days.
A massively booming economy overstimulates humans to the point they're just focused on wealth and fun. Especially when ppl don't have a religious incentive to have children and housing prices have been high historically.

Once the novelty of all the new things you can do wears off and combined with today's affordable housing, well, the evidence is quite clear, we're already seeing a rise in birth rate.

If you don't dabble in forced birth policies, economic conditions solely dictate childbirth. And for China I don't ever see a need for the former. No country needs that. The ones doing it are all backwards ones for a reason. It's not about some imaginary demographic crisis, it's about control and oppression.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Also media representation is important, I don't watch Chinese TV shows, but I think they need to increase messaging about how kids are an important part of Chinese life. Apparently the recent change in media culture in Korea is increasing the birthrates.
I noticed in the early 1990s and 2000s, some Chinese music videos (example: 花心 by 周华健,最炫民族风 by 凤凰传奇) had kids in them and even in 2004 there was 家有儿女 with a family of 3 kids.

All of that was gone by 2010s.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
All culture. 100% culture. Chinese people are notoriously good at chasing what we think represents wealth/success. Because decades ago, everybody could pump out kids, but being highly educated (PhD or degree from high ranking institution) and rich (high income, large house, expensive car) was so rare, these things came to represent success and having many kids came to represent a mundane thing that uneducated country people do. That's why we have the current issue.

Chinese people need to see that being childless is walking around like a zombie that doesn't know that he's already dead. All the money, wealth and power are just jewels and a crown hung on a pitiful zombie's corpse. The only real prosperity, the only thing you can own that is not artificial but primal and biological, above all laws of man, is children, the honor of passing on your genes. Once Chinese people see this, no difficulties, no laws, no circumstances can stop them from having many many kids.

And after the new trend/generation of "cool" childless people age to the point where they feel mortal and lament that they have run out of time to create a biological legacy, their final sorrowful wailings will serve as the reminder to the young people that this is the end that awaits the childless. In the meantime, Chinese automation will pick up the slack and it is fantastic at doing so.
 
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siegecrossbow

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A massively booming economy overstimulates humans to the point they're just focused on wealth and fun. Especially when ppl don't have a religious incentive to have children and housing prices have been high historically.

Once the novelty of all the new things you can do wears off and combined with today's affordable housing, well, the evidence is quite clear, we're already seeing a rise in birth rate.

If you don't dabble in forced birth policies, economic conditions solely dictate childbirth. And for China I don't ever see a need for the former. No country needs that. The ones doing it are all backwards ones for a reason. It's not about some imaginary demographic crisis, it's about control and oppression.

Once Trump goes through with Handsmaid Tale style forced birth policies China can start importing Americans.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Once Trump goes through with Handsmaid Tale style forced birth policies China can start importing Americans.
LOL My neighbor is a 50 year old white American lady with no kids. She comes to our house with gifts 3-5 times a week to play with ours because she absolutely loves them to no end. When I told her my parents are visiting, she offered her spare bedroom for them to live in for free for "as long as they want." When they were living there, she would come by 2x a day to play with our kids. When we told her we would eventually in a few years move back to China, she ASKED TO MOVE WITH US and said she hoped Chinese immigration weren't assholes like Trump!!! Actually started Duolingo Mandarin!
 
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