China demographics thread.

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Ameri-Can or Can’t?: China’s Looming Demographic and Economic Collapse | GoodFellows​

Given China's shrinking demography and real-estate crisis, "GoodFellows" (really Neocon/Neolib ideologues) project that China will collapse and that the Chinese (or Asian) century will not come to pass this century.

IMHO, these neocon/neolib regime thinkers really hope that China (and Asia) will fail and that the 21st century will also be an American century. Just like Peter Zeihan, another neocon/neolib regime ideologue, these "Good Fellows" are largely too hopeful that China will fail and US hegemony will continue.

 

[reservior dogs]

I was waiting for this ridiculous thread to start up again; thanks, tidalwave. I made a recent Reddit post on this subject

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, and I'll quote the relevant part in the interest of brevity:

The more I think about this idea, the more I like it. If implemented, the children resulting from it will be far more likely to make contributions to Chinese science and technology at the highest level than children from the general population. Since the state would be raising them, it can ensure that they're brought up with the proper values.

I really like your idea. I actually had a similar idea a while back. Hopefully one day the Chinese government will adapt it.

 

[ansy1968]

China's birth rates have seen double digit declines y/y with no end in sight

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Coming from WSJ I'll say they need to produce more of China collapse article to sell more and profit from it, there is NO drawback for misreporting and in fact like Bloomberg article on China spy chip it's a headliner...lol

As the West regress it is easy to pinpoint others country problem, it's a sign of Depression, a need for a quick fix solution and mental "HIGH". And we know it's very hard to overcome that sickness, in fact they may need China help to do so.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

China's birth rates have seen double digit declines y/y with no end in sight

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The only thing with no end in sight is the number of alts you make to evade your ban, Sleepystudent. Take a hint already.

 

[tygyg1111]

The only thing with no end in sight is the number of alts you make to evade your ban, Sleepystudent. Take a hint already.

Anglo queen's death must have lit a fire under his ass. Must.Prove.We're.Still.Winning

 

[Overlord]

China's birth rates have seen double digit declines y/y with no end in sight

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With birth rate of 1.3% should be a scary for china, because it's really hard to reverse birth rate decline when it goes below 1.6 % and even USA and Europe has higher birth rate and that is around more than 1.6.
China is not a immigration country, so it should have taken population growth measure atleast a decade ago , if things goes on like this then by 2070 china might loose around 40% of it's population which and it would be an aging society and since degloblization is happening so Chinese market will only shrink due and companies will also move outside of china because they won't like to hire 40+ years old people to do the job instead they would like to hire more younger south east Asian.

The one reason why so many companies moved out from USA, europe and japan was because of aging population. Same thing is happening in china at much faster rate .

 

[AF-1]

Companies are leaving expensive countries aiming to exploit cheap labor, energy and raw materials of undeveloped countries.
By 2070 human labor will be either totally gone, either reduced to up to 10% of today level. And China is leading in automatication, robotisation...
In such condition declining population is favorable. China took measures just enough to prolong that as it needs...

 

[Overlord]

Companies are leaving expensive countries aiming to exploit cheap labor, energy and raw materials of undeveloped countries.
By 2070 human labor will be either totally gone, either reduced to up to 10% of today level. And China is leading in automatication, robotisation...
In such condition declining population is favorable. China took measures just enough to prolong that as it needs...

The problem with such type of thinking that you only see humans as labours, but more working humans means more bigger market.
The reason why so many companies came to china because of big market and endless supply of young and cheap working people which ended up creating big Chinese market which means more sales.


If you only give jobs to 10% of people then only 10% of people can create demand for product, Which means demad will decrease to 10% that means you need to decrease alot of production, so low demand, low production creates high cost and economy will be ended up contracting.

 

[Petrolicious88]

Companies are leaving expensive countries aiming to exploit cheap labor, energy and raw materials of undeveloped countries.
By 2070 human labor will be either totally gone, either reduced to up to 10% of today level. And China is leading in automatication, robotisation...
In such condition declining population is favorable. China took measures just enough to prolong that as it needs...

-If all automation does is to replace human jobs then we are all in trouble.
-Automation should instead lead to new jobs that doesn’t exist yet.
You want a healthy balance in your population not one that is overburdened with seniors.

 

[xypher]

With birth rate of 1.3% should be a scary for china, because it's really hard to reverse birth rate decline when it goes below 1.6 % and even USA and Europe has higher birth rate and that is around more than 1.6.
China is not a immigration country, so it should have taken population growth measure atleast a decade ago , if things goes on like this then by 2070 china might loose around 40% of it's population which and it would be an aging society and since degloblization is happening so Chinese market will only shrink due and companies will also move outside of china because they won't like to hire 40+ years old people to do the job instead they would like to hire more younger south east Asian.

The one reason why so many companies moved out from USA, europe and japan was because of aging population. Same thing is happening in china at much faster rate .

No, most of Europe has sub-1.6 TFR and the TFR gains primarily come from immigrants. Southern countries like Italy have sub-1.3 TFRs and have a net loss of population, same for EE countries like Poland which additionally also lose a lot of population through emigration. France, Sweden, Ireland and a few others are the only countries that have higher TFRs (still sub-2.0).