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Coalescence

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I just want to share this article here, because I have interest on seeing whether artificial womb can become a solution to the demographic problem in the future.

What's interesting is that we already can achieve partial-ectogenesis (ectogenesis means birth outside of womb) for fetuses aged 22 weeks or longer, albeit with expensive equipment and treatment currently. What's exciting to see is there have been many developments in this field recently, which make it not longer a matter of how, but when will artificial be made.

In the last section of the article, the author talks about societal implications of this technology, and I want to ask what does users think about birth control in context of China. If this technology becomes widely available and mature, should China maintain their current population numbers or should lower it to a healthy population amount? Also would there be geopolitical implications for this tech, like nations aiming to increase their population by a lot, to get an edge on manpower and researcher numbers?
 

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I just want to share this article here, because I have interest on seeing whether artificial womb can become a solution to the demographic problem in the future.

What's interesting is that we already can achieve partial-ectogenesis (ectogenesis means birth outside of womb) for fetuses aged 22 weeks or longer, albeit with expensive equipment and treatment currently. What's exciting to see is there have been many developments in this field recently, which make it not longer a matter of how, but when will artificial be made.

In the last section of the article, the author talks about societal implications of this technology, and I want to ask what does users think about birth control in context of China. If this technology becomes widely available and mature, should China maintain their current population numbers or should lower it to a healthy population amount? Also would there be geopolitical implications for this tech, like nations aiming to increase their population by a lot, to get an edge on manpower and researcher numbers?
I think it will be the death of a society, copy pasted people minimal genetic diversify. I can see the use for China as a short or medium term solution because of the one child policy. But on the medium and long term China should fix societies problems stopping couples from having 2 or more children.

The problem with this technology is that it could allow governments to just ignore improving the life of people if they die at the age of 40 just turn on the cloning vats and print some new people.
 

Coalescence

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I think it will be the death of a society, copy pasted people minimal genetic diversify. I can see the use for China as a short or medium term solution because of the one child policy. But on the medium and long term China should fix societies problems stopping couples from having 2 or more children.

The problem with this technology is that it could allow governments to just ignore improving the life of people if they die at the age of 40 just turn on the cloning vats and print some new people.
I don't think artificial womb would lead to minimal genetic diversity, unless genetic engineering or gene selection is involved like what we have now with In vitro fertilization. These problems can be solved through proper ethical codes and laws, but artificial womb would completely change the gender dynamic in society, where females is no longer traditionally considered as a caregiver or who bears the burden of childbirth in a family unit.

Definitely that China should use this technology to fix their population demographic make up, and stopping couples from having 2 or more children later on as population is stabilized should be simple enough with the use of previous birth control policies and control of access to artificial womb technology.

As for government neglecting improving the quality of life for their people because of this technology, I don't think they would be anymore neglectful like we have now in the west, where they ignore social issues like homelessness and poverty, while focusing on enriching those who have more and playing dangerous geopolitical games.

There's also a lot of work and resources involved in creating new humans even with a cloning vat, like education, proper child development and investment, that it would be more wiser to keep quality humans alive and develop ways to make them last longer like "reverse aging" technology and artificial organs.
 

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I think it will be the death of a society, copy pasted people minimal genetic diversify.
Disagree, or well depends on how it is implemented.
For China I think they will make it so that various couples (such as gay or older/not able to birth) can make use of this tech, but they won't just make use of this tech and throw the kids into foster homes or the likes.
But on the medium and long term China should fix societies problems stopping couples from having 2 or more children.
Agree (we're already seeing some efforts, but more needs to be done).
 

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Apparently there is a demographic collapse happening across Asia. I didnt realize it was bad in other countries like Vietnam, Thailand, or Malaysia too.
It seems like every country will go through a demographic collapse as they become economically stronger without intervention. Guess there needs to be some fundamental change in how the society is structured or new technologies invented to promote fertility.
 
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