China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread
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renmin
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Re: China's DF-41
Well the first picture, you can see the full version on the China missile thread posted by swimmerXC. The picture, is just the author's imagination on how the DF-41 would look like, but his info seems acurate, for all you guys who can read chinese, read it.
Well the first picture, you can see the full version on the China missile thread posted by swimmerXC. The picture, is just the author's imagination on how the DF-41 would look like, but his info seems acurate, for all you guys who can read chinese, read it.
Re: China's DF-41
I think there's a trend in western nations to move away from ICBM's and toward SSBN's w/SLBM's, while in the "Eastern" block, both China and Russia lean toward "dual use" developments, where the missile could be adopted for either ICBM or SLBM role with common components.
For an example, in Russia we have the Topol-M ICBM, and the Bulava SLBM. In China we have the DF-31 and the JL-2.
I think there's a trend in western nations to move away from ICBM's and toward SSBN's w/SLBM's, while in the "Eastern" block, both China and Russia lean toward "dual use" developments, where the missile could be adopted for either ICBM or SLBM role with common components.
For an example, in Russia we have the Topol-M ICBM, and the Bulava SLBM. In China we have the DF-31 and the JL-2.
Re: China's DF-41
there is a dout , i found more files on the internet of china , including photos and words . according to the pictures i post , we can conclude that DF41 is not deployed , it just exists in people's imagenation
, whereas , i then found some words on DF41 in , which is operated by people's daily . it reads :currently , DF31,DF41 , JL2 and Changfeng cruise missile have been already deployed .so we aslo can conclude that DF41 exists in china's military forces.( 目前，随着东风31、东风41和巨浪2型中远程战略导弹、长风巡航导弹等陆续装备部队，中国的陆基、海基战略打击体系已初具规模；发射侦察卫星、GPS卫星等已无技术障碍；在外层空间打击卫星的激光武器也在研制中。).
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ?
there is a dout , i found more files on the internet of china , including photos and words . according to the pictures i post , we can conclude that DF41 is not deployed , it just exists in people's imagenation
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ?
ChinaWall65
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Re: China's DF-41
I doubt the chinese government will reveal DF-41 to the public now or the near future, we do not even have enough information to substantially conclude anything on current ICBMs like DF-31 or DF-5. If DF-41 truely exists, I wonder how US will respond...
I doubt the chinese government will reveal DF-41 to the public now or the near future, we do not even have enough information to substantially conclude anything on current ICBMs like DF-31 or DF-5. If DF-41 truely exists, I wonder how US will respond...
renmin
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Re: China's DF-41
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Actually, China isnt that isolated. During design and construction of a military product, the PRC government likes to keep a hood on things but after completion, the PRC government is willing to tell their people of their acheivements. First to show their people of their homeland's power, second, to scare the other superpowers. America, well if the DF-41 can reach 13000km, they have plenty reasons to go beserk.:rofl:ChinaWall65 said:
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ChinaWall65
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Re: China's DF-41
I'm not saying China is isolated, in fact, china releases almost everything to the media except for nuclear weapons...think about it, how many photos of chinese ICBMs are there compared to tanks, or airplanes, etc.
It is okay to let other superpowers to know that a weapon such as DF-41 exists, but releasing specifications and capabilities will only lead to greater efforts to counter such weapon by China's enemies. If America suddenly discovers that its territory is threatened by DF-41, then it would deploy more and more ABM systems in Asia and will place political pressure on China to stop the DF-41 programm. In addition, if the DF-41 is constantly in the media, then its position might be exposed to enemies, which is disadvantageous should there be a nuclear war. Therefore, when it comes to nuclear weapons, showing off is not a good choice to make.
I'm not saying China is isolated, in fact, china releases almost everything to the media except for nuclear weapons...think about it, how many photos of chinese ICBMs are there compared to tanks, or airplanes, etc.
It is okay to let other superpowers to know that a weapon such as DF-41 exists, but releasing specifications and capabilities will only lead to greater efforts to counter such weapon by China's enemies. If America suddenly discovers that its territory is threatened by DF-41, then it would deploy more and more ABM systems in Asia and will place political pressure on China to stop the DF-41 programm. In addition, if the DF-41 is constantly in the media, then its position might be exposed to enemies, which is disadvantageous should there be a nuclear war. Therefore, when it comes to nuclear weapons, showing off is not a good choice to make.
Re: China's DF-41
there is an anecdote . in 1980s , a professor of US told chinese officials that he could help PLA to improve his nuke-sub if he could be allowed to enter nuke-sub's control module , but an execute of PLA refused , he said " we sure fall behind US , but we won't let him know how much we fall behind him"
there is an anecdote . in 1980s , a professor of US told chinese officials that he could help PLA to improve his nuke-sub if he could be allowed to enter nuke-sub's control module , but an execute of PLA refused , he said " we sure fall behind US , but we won't let him know how much we fall behind him"
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renmin
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Re: China's DF-41
, i just mean that China gives a rough idea to the public like range capability, length, etc. Thats all the article states above anyway, infact, that article barely tells anything about the DF-41.
I did not mean by pictures, I just meant normal info. Many people knew about DF-31 after it was complete. In fact, I heard of it first from my relatives in China. Maybe china would not be willing to send much info out of their country. by they way, that picture above is just a artist's impression, the guy wrote it in the article. Oh and by the way, I would like to mention that US doesnt have any operational ABM systems, that would be Russia, patriots arnt designed to counter a ICBM, they are used to shoot down SCUDs (dont think Im trying to anoy you, just stating facts)ChinaWall65 said:
, i just mean that China gives a rough idea to the public like range capability, length, etc. Thats all the article states above anyway, infact, that article barely tells anything about the DF-41.ChinaWall65
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Re: China's DF-41
That is correct, the article doesn't say much at all...China barely releases any info on its nuclear program...
The guy is contradicting himself. Clearly, he doesn't want US to find out that China's sub is behind US. But by stating that " we sure fall behind US , but we won't let him know how much we fall behind him," he just told the US that China's sub is behind US.
renmin said:
That is correct, the article doesn't say much at all...China barely releases any info on its nuclear program...
Yang Yang said:
The guy is contradicting himself. Clearly, he doesn't want US to find out that China's sub is behind US. But by stating that " we sure fall behind US , but we won't let him know how much we fall behind him," he just told the US that China's sub is behind US.
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