antiterror13
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The mainland give total protection to Hongkong. Hongkong don't need to waste it's money for defense (like Singapore).
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The mainland give total protection to Hongkong. Hongkong don't need to waste it's money for defense (like Singapore).
aquauant
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Funny way to learn, NZer.
Antiterror/Aquauant - Can it the pair of you, or start packing your holiday bags!
LOL.
Hong Kong is a good example of what the rest of China could be in having a good degree of of a "Rule of Law"
Are you sure its that much?
CottageLV
Banned Idiot
it probably is that much, but just like london, ny. and singapore, those money are deposited by foreigners, theyre just holding onto it. they dont physically own it. the locals only hold a very small percentage of it.
It cannot possible be that much as US$300 Trillion that is greater than the annual GDP of the entire planet! by several times!
If anybody wants to make an issue of it, they are welcome to provide the documentary evidence in the public domain which identifies how that sum is made up.
Otherwise less BS please before I have a serious sense of humour failure.
vesicles
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Everyone that I know who has been to Hong Kong and Taiwan says they actually see the true Chinese culture and value there. More so in Taiwan than Hong Kong.
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solarz
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I disagree very strongly.
Where do masters of Pekin Opera reside? Can you find large followings of Yue （越剧）, Hu （沪剧）, and Huang Mei（黄梅戏）Operas in Hong Kong or Taiwan?
When the Canadian wanted to learn Xiang-Shen （相声）, where did he go?
Culinary-wise, where do you find the best 小笼包？Pekin Duck? 麻辣火锅？BBQ'd Lamb Skewers? How important is 饺子 in HK or Taiwanese culture?
Who's a more influential director: Zhang Yimou or Ang Li?
Look at HK and Taiwan pop. Then look at mainlander pop groups/singers like Phoenix Legend （凤凰传奇），慕容晓晓，徐千雅, 李玉刚: which musical culture is more rooted in traditional chinese music?
So how exactly can Taiwan and Hong Kong claim to have "truer" Chinese culture?
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I would say that HK and Taiwan cultures are a part of Chinese culture, but only a part, and far from being the entire panorama that is Chinese culture.
vesicles' post was a little too vague to really argue for or against, but solarz's response did get me thinking.
It seems dangerous to start listing how many traditional things a culture has to assert its authenticity because that's sort of a shallow take on culture. It's also important to study how relevant a particular cultural expression is to the whole society at the time.
It's like this: The Chinese government slaps the Confucius name on an international outreach program, but how Confucian is the Communist government, or Chinese society on the mainland? Or rather, how many people really quote the Analects? The Peking Opera masters may be on the mainland, but is it a commonly enjoyed art form, or is it a niche recreation enjoyed by only a relative few? Similarly, Phoenix Legend may indeed be more rooted in traditional Chinese music, but does the majority listen to this, or do they listen to that generic Asian pop music?
I agree with what solarz said here:
It seems dangerous to start listing how many traditional things a culture has to assert its authenticity because that's sort of a shallow take on culture. It's also important to study how relevant a particular cultural expression is to the whole society at the time.
It's like this: The Chinese government slaps the Confucius name on an international outreach program, but how Confucian is the Communist government, or Chinese society on the mainland? Or rather, how many people really quote the Analects? The Peking Opera masters may be on the mainland, but is it a commonly enjoyed art form, or is it a niche recreation enjoyed by only a relative few? Similarly, Phoenix Legend may indeed be more rooted in traditional Chinese music, but does the majority listen to this, or do they listen to that generic Asian pop music?
I agree with what solarz said here:
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