Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36)

Deino

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Could it be the 4th prototype with TVC nozzles, while the one from few days ago (said to be the fifth overall) is the 2nd with the trench nozzles, so first and fifth with trench nozzles, and second, third, fourth and sixth with TVC nozzles?


A sixth?
 

mack8

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There were videos from David Wang PLA on the day the 5th prototype news came out and those videos showed J-36 with 2DTVC nozzles, are those old videos or is it something new?
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Well, it appears the screenshots show DSI intakes coupled with the trench nozzles, so it's either the claimed 5th airframe, or maybe the first prototype modified with DSI intakes.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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I am a bit confused … I thought it would be the fifth? Did I miss something?


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The original post by the author has been removed by the platform just now.

A few of the comments by the author that I managed to recall, IIRC:
- The latest prototype is likely using an improved variant/version of the WS-15 engine (WS-15G?)
- This is the 4th prototype and also the 5th prototype (Not sure what he meant by this? Did he mean that the original 4th prototype was upgraded significantly enough into a "new" 5th prototype, or that the 4th and 5th prototypes are generally the same?)
- This (4th?) prototype is said to be a "full-status" prototype
- There is another prototype undergoing static ground testing
- LRIP isn't far off

If there's anyone who has better memory of his quotes on this development, feel free to chip in/recitfy.
 
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Tomboy

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Can I be given a explanation why people think this is not 2D TVC engines? To me they look like they are like 2D TVC engines.
Looks like the bottom extends all the way to the tail, the cutout on for the 2D TVC are quite long and would be probably appear brighter (or quite obviously seen) in this angle than it appears to be here.
 

Nx4eu

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Looks like the bottom extends all the way to the tail, the cutout on for the 2D TVC are quite long and would be probably appear brighter (or quite obviously seen) in this angle than it appears to be here.
In red I drew what appears to me to be the tail booms, while in orange is what appears to me as the 2d nozzle cutout. The cutout at least to me is not appearing to be visible because of the angle/perspective and the long zoom. I placed my model with the 2D TVC nozzles at a similar angle and as you can see the cutout is not as obvious as you would expect at this angle.
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