Chen Guangcheng is in the US embassy in Beijing!!

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Schumacher

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Frankly, he was a naive fool for putting all his hopes on the U.S. as a savior. He should've gone to the Norwegian embassy instead.

But Hollywood is in US. He was probably hoping he can get much more fame & money in US than any other places.
 

RedMercury

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I think he is far more aware of local issues than geopolitics. Actually, most Chinese are not very informed when it comes to American politics.
 

AssassinsMace

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There are so many holes in the story. Now a blind man climbed an electrified fence by himself? I'm sure the US embassy recorded all converstions with him. If it's true that they asked repeatly the important questions especially about asylum, then they should release the footage. Then the secret police have him being watched so much that reporters and his friends and human rights activists have access to him at the hospital to give out all these statements? And how did he learn about his family being threatened when he was at the US embassy. That was the threat that motivated him to leave. His wife was tied up in a chair being threatened with big sticks and she made a call to tell him to leave the embassy or she will be killed. And then he was surprised he was left alone at the hospital? Did the US know about this threat and then leave him at the hospital? Like the embassy personel didn't know the consequences of knowing of the threat then leaving him at the hospital? Obama better release those recordings out to the public.
 

A.Man

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Did he use the expression "stabbed in the back"? As I understand it, the situation is that he thought there was a way he could ensure his family's safety by leaving the embassy. He's now concerned that the only way to guarantee their safety would be to leave China.

As you say, we'll have to see what happens next.

Mr. T, my advice: assumption is the mother of all screw ups!

You sounded like, you are a worm in his stomach!

Oh, by the way: Mama is very happy in China

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BEIJING (AP) — A cloud hung over annual talks between the United States and China on Thursday as a blind Chinese dissident who took refuge in the U.S. Embassy appealed to Washington for more help, saying from his hospital room in Beijing that he now fears for his family's safety unless they are all spirited abroad.

China already demanded an apology from the U.S. even before Chen Guangcheng balked at a deal in which he would remain in his homeland. Now that he wants to leave, the case could overshadow talks in which Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner are to discuss foreign policy and economic issues with their Chinese counterparts.

After six days holed up in the U.S. Embassy, as senior officials in Beijing and Washington tussled over his fate, Chen left the compound's protective confines Wednesday for a nearby hospital for treatment of a leg injury suffered in his escape. A shaken Chen told The Associated Press from his hospital room that Chinese authorities had warned he would lose his opportunity to be reunited with his family if he stayed longer in the embassy.

U.S. officials verified that account. But they adamantly denied his contention that one American diplomat had warned him of a threat from the Chinese that his wife would be beaten to death if he did not get out of the embassy.

"I think we'd like to rest in a place outside of China," Chen told the AP, appealing again for help from Washington. "Help my family and me leave safely."

Only hours earlier, U.S. officials said they had extracted from the Chinese government a promise that Chen would join his family and be allowed to start a new life in a university town in China, safe from the rural authorities who had abusively held him in prison and house arrest for nearly seven years.

Clinton spoke to Chen on the phone when he left the embassy and, in a statement, welcomed the resettlement agreement as one that "reflected his choices and our values."

But the murky circumstances of Chen's departure from the embassy, and his sudden appeal to leave China after declaring he wanted to stay, again threatened to overshadow talks that were to focus on the global economic crisis and hotspots such as North Korea, Iran, Syria and Sudan.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry signaled its unhappiness with the entire affair, demanding that the U.S. apologize for giving Chen sanctuary at the embassy.

"What the U.S. side should do now is neither to continue misleading the public and making every excuse to shift responsibility and conceal its wrongdoing, nor to interfere in the domestic affairs of China," said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said late Wednesday in a statement that was a response to comments from Clinton praising the deal on Chen.

Chen, 40, became an international human rights figure and inspiration to many ordinary Chinese after running afoul of local government officials for exposing forced abortions carried out as part of China's one-child policy. He served four years in prison on what supporters said were fabricated charges, then was kept under house arrest with his wife, daughter and mother, with the adults often being roughed up by officials and his daughter searched and harassed.

Blinded by childhood fever but intimately familiar with the terrain of his village, Chen slipped from his guarded farmhouse in eastern China's Shandong province at night on April 22. He made his way through fields and forest, along roads and across a narrow river to meet the first of several supporters who helped bring him to Beijing and the embassy. It took three days for his guards to realize he was gone.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner disputed Chen's claim that he was left alone by the Americans at the hospital.

"There were U.S. officials in the building," the spokesman told reporters. "I believe some of his medical team was in fact with him at the hospital." He said U.S. officials would continue visiting Chen while he was there.

Chen's supporters in the U.S. called on Clinton to meet him directly, and one of them, Republican Rep. Christopher Smith of New Jersey, said it appeared the resettlement agreement "seems to have been done under significant duress."

"If ever there was a test of the U.S. commitment to human rights, it should have been at that moment, potentially sending him back to a very real threat," he said.

But no one appeared to know precisely what to make of Chen's change of heart. He had welcomed a deal that let him stay in China and work for change, telling his lawyer Li Jinsong on the way to the hospital, "I'm free, I've received clear assurances," according to Li.

Toner said three U.S. officials heard Chen tell Clinton in broken English on the phone that he wanted to kiss her in gratitude. Chen told the AP that he actually told Clinton, "I want to see you now."

Nor is it clear how the U.S. could be party to an agreement on Chen's safety inside China when it has no power to enforce the conditions of his life there.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said no U.S. official said anything to Chen about physical or legal threats to his wife and children. Nor did the Chinese relay any such threats to American diplomats, she said. She did confirm that if he did not leave the embassy the Chinese intended to return his family to their home province of Shandong, where they had been detained and beaten by local officials, and that they would lose any chance of being reunited.

"At every opportunity, he expressed his desire to stay in China, reunify with his family, continue his education and work for reform in his country," Nuland said. "All our diplomacy was directed at putting him in the best possible position to achieve his objectives."

Jerome Cohen, a New York University law professor who is advising Chen at the State Department's request, said there was never any explicit discussion of a threat against Chen's wife.

"There was no indication in four or five hours of talks that he knew of any threat to her life," Cohen said.

Senior U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the intense negotiations that led to Chen leaving the embassy, said the U.S. helped Chen get into the embassy because he injured his leg escaping from his village. In the embassy, Chen did not request safe passage out of China or asylum in the U.S., the officials said.

U.S. officials said the deal called for Chen to settle outside his home province of Shandong and have several university options to choose from. They also said the Chinese government had promised to treat Chen "like any other student in China" and to investigate allegations of abuse against him and his family by local authorities.

Clinton said the U.S. would monitor China's assurances. "Making these commitments a reality is the next crucial task," she said.

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Associated Press writers Charles Hutzler, Gillian Wong, Bradley Klapper and Cara Anna contributed to this report.
 

z117

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This is just trial by media. Not only is he just a pawn for bureaucrats, now the western media is going to milk him for everything, it will only exacerbating his predicament. This is a classic example of dissidents who try to use the media as their private soapbox.
 

cn_habs

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WSJ's online edition's breaking news as of this moment:

"U.S. Ambassador Gary Locke says blind Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng made it 'very clear' he wanted to stay in China."
 

PhageHunter

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(Reuters) - Blind Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng appealed on Thursday for asylum in the United States, throwing into doubt a deal used to coax him out hiding in the U.S. embassy in Beijing and fanning U.S.-China tensions at a sensitive time.

The standoff appears particularly troublesome for the Obama administration, with Chen saying he now fears for his and his family's safety if he stays in China, as was planned under the deal that Washington called a good outcome for the dissident.

Chen, a self-taught legal activist, left the embassy on Wednesday and is now under Chinese control in a Beijing hospital. He had taken refuge at the mission for six days after escaping house arrest and left after U.S. officials assured him that Beijing had promised to improve his circumstances.

But Chen said on Thursday by telephone from hospital, where he was escorted by U.S. officials and was being treated for a broken foot, that he had changed his mind after speaking to his wife who spoke of recent threats made against his family.

"I feel very unsafe. My rights and safety cannot be assured here," he said. His family, who were with him at the hospital, backed his decision to try to reach the United States, he added.

The activist, citing descriptions from his wife, Yuan Weijing, said his family had been surrounded by Chinese officials who menaced them and filled the family home. Chen, from a village in rural Shandong province, has two children.

"When I was inside the American embassy, I didn't have my family, and so I didn't understand some things. After I was able to meet them, my ideas changed."

A senior U.S. official later said the United States was seeking to clarify Chen's wishes and continued to discuss his fate with the Chinese government.

"When we feel that we have a clear view of what his final decision is, we will do what we can to help him achieve that," the official said.

The timing of the Chen case comes at a fragile time for both nations: President Barack Obama will be sensitive to any criticism of the handling of Chen in the run-up to a November presidential election and China is struggling to push through its own leadership transition late this year.

That carefully choreographed transition has already been wrong-footed by the downfall of ambitious senior Communist Party official Bo Xilai after he was caught up in a scandal linked to the apparent murder of a British businessman.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton found herself in the eye of the diplomatic storm on Thursday, turning up for the opening of annual bilateral talks in Beijing which have been overshadowed, but not derailed, by the Chen case.

She used the occasion to urge China to protect human rights but made no specific mention of Chen, whom she had spoken to on Wednesday after he left the embassy.

"Of course, as part of our dialogue, the United States raises the importance of human rights and fundamental freedoms," Clinton said. "We believe all governments have to answer our citizens' aspirations for dignity and the rule of law and that no nation can or should deny those rights."

Despite Chen's change of heart about staying in China, it was unclear if he would be able to travel to the United States. Having left the embassy and the protection of U.S. authorities, his fate is now in the hands of the Chinese government.

U.S. officials appeared no longer to be with him on Thursday, with the dissident saying he had still not had an opportunity to explain his change of heart to the U.S. side.

"I hope the U.S. will help me leave immediately. I want to go there for medical treatment," Chen said from the hospital, where a pack of camera crews and reporters was waiting outside, kept away from the entrance by a few police.

U.S. -CHINA DEAL BREAKS DOWN

Washington had hoped its deal with Beijing over Chen would defuse the crisis, with both Clinton and U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner in the Chinese capital for this week's bilateral talks - in which the United States will aim to secure more cooperation from China on trade and international flashpoints such as North Korea, Iran and Syria.

Under the deal, according to U.S. officials, Chen and his family would have been relocated within the country in safety and he would be allowed to pursue his studies.

But Chinese authorities have taken a tough tone, criticizing what they called U.S. meddling and demanding an apology for the way U.S. diplomats handled the case.

Chinese President Hue Jintao made no mention of the Chen case in his remarks to the U.S.-China talks but stressed that the two nations needed trust.

"It is impossible for China and the United States to see eye-to-eye on every issue, but both sides must know how to respect each other," he said.

Earlier, Chen directed a personal appeal to Obama in comments aired on ANN: "I would like to say to President Obama, please do everything you can to get our family out."

DOUBTS AND QUESTIONS

Chen, 40, is a legal activist who campaigned against forced abortions under China's "one-child" policy. He escaped 19 months of house arrest, during which he and his family faced beatings and threats, on April 22.

U.S. officials had said Chen left the embassy of his own free will because he wanted to be reunited with his wife and children. They said he wanted to remain in China and never asked for asylum.

Chen's dramatic escape from house arrest and his flight last week to the U.S. embassy have made him a symbol of resistance to China's shackles on dissent, and the deal struck by Beijing and Washington would have kept him an international test case of how tight or lose those restrictions remain.

Now, however, his change of mind throws not only his own future into doubt but also raises questions about the wider U.S.-China relationship.

It could also prove politically costly for President Obama, who has already been accused of being soft on China by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and who could now face further criticism over Chen's case.

What initially appeared to be a foreign policy success for the Obama administration could quickly turn into a liability.

(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard, Don Durfee, Lucy Hornby and Michael Martina in Beijing; Brian Rhoads, James Pomfret and Tan Ee Lyn in Hong Kong; and Arshad Mohammed and Paul Eckert in Washington.; Writing by Jonathan Thatcher, Claudia Parsons; Editing by Mark Bendeich and Jonathan Thatcher)

He is more of a US problem than Chinese problem now.
 

z117

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theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/05/chinese-activist-very-disappointed-in-the-us-says-officials-lied-to-him/256675/

Chinese Activist 'Very Disappointed' in the U.S., Says Officials Lied To Him

Chen Guangcheng, who left his protecting shelter at the U.S. embassy in Beijing this morning, angrily portrays American officials as having manipulated him to encourage his departure.

A little over 12 hours after blind Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng was released from the U.S. embassy in Beijing, which he had fled to after escaping house arrest, Chen now says that American officials encouraged him to leave the safe haven of the embassy building, in part by making promises that they failed to keep. In an interview with CNN's Steven Jiang, he expressed deep disappointment with the U.S. and with President Barack Obama personally. He said that embassy officials were no longer picking up his calls and that he already felt his rights being "violated" by the Chinese government, which had promised him his freedom in exchange for him leaving the embassy. He strenuously and repeatedly asked the U.S. and Obama to help him and his family leave China.

Now he is trying to shame the Americans into helping?
 
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