Bringing in the New Year with Idaho Style Fireworks (My sons and I)

Well Scratch, she says its cute, I guess thats good, and equation if you were holding that, I doubt they would say to much to your face.

Air Force Brat said:

Well Scratch, she says its cute, I guess thats good, and equation if you were holding that, I doubt they would say to much to your face.

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Yeah, but would the unit hold it against him if they saw that? If I'm in a dire situation in a fox hole and my weapon is damaged and I have several full magazines left and the enemy is coming at me, yes I will use it without a doubt no matter what color of that weapon is.

vesicles said:

Have you seen the "Hello Kitty" M-16? Yep, all pink and with the cat's head and all. Perhaps you should do the same for your wife...

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Hehehe...here's a true story.

Several years ago myself and a few others put together something we called the "50 Million Round March" (google it). We had gun shops and gun ranges all over the country sponsoring it with us to show that we could safely cook off 50 million rounds all over the nation safely at these hundreds of gun ranges.

It was in answer to the "Million Mom March" on Mother's Day that year in Washington DC against gun ownership.

We did ours on Father's Day and instead of going to Washington DC, we asked Dad's to take their kids to the local ranges.

It went off great. Lot's of fun all over the country. Did it again on July 4th and Thanksgiving that year. Here in Idaho at the one I attended on Father's Day, we had the local TV station come out and they sent a pretty liberal lady reporter. It was clear she was against all of us good old boy "men" teaching our kids to shoot and she clearly held it in disdain.

Then after we started shooting, a wise older fellow who was there with a full auto AR-15 with a .22 cal insert asked her if she would like to shoot it. She didn't really want to but her camera man indicated she should do so and get some pictures.

So she sat down and the older gentlemen showed her how to hold, aim, and and shoot it.

Then she cooked off about 20 rounds down range...at the end of shooting she did this little feminie "squeal" thing and asked if she could do it again. The old boy said sure and so she did.

Before all was said and done she went through a couple of hundred rounds and just loved it. She was really excited about it and left that day talking about how she might just have to get one of those herself and do more shooting.

LOL! Hehehe...so we made a convert that day.

Jeff Head said:

Hehehe...here's a true story.

Several years ago myself and a few others put together something we called the "50 Million Round March" (google it). We had gun shops and gun ranges all over the country sponsoring it with us to show that we could safely cook off 50 million rounds all over the nation safely at these hundreds of gun ranges.

It was in answer to the "Million Mom March" on Mother's Day that year in Washington DC against gun ownership.

We did ours on Father's Day and instead of going to Washington DC, we asked Dad's to take their kids to the local ranges.

It went off great. Lot's of fun all over the country. Did it again on July 4th and Thanksgiving that year. Here in Idaho at the one I attended on Father's Day, we had the local TV station come out and they sent a pretty liberal lady reporter. It was clear she was against all of us good old boy "men" teaching our kids to shoot and she clearly held it in disdain.

Then after we started shooting, a wise older fellow who was there with a full auto AR-15 with a .22 cal insert asked her if she would like to shoot it. She didn't really want to but her camera man indicated she should do so and get some pictures.

So she sat down and the older gentlemen showed her how to hold, aim, and and shoot it.

Then she cooked off about 20 rounds down range...at the end of shooting she did this little feminie "squeal" thing and asked if she could do it again. The old boy said sure and so she did.

Before all was said and done she went through a couple of hundred rounds and just loved it. She was really excited about it and left that day talking about how she might just have to get one of those herself and do more shooting.

LOL! Hehehe...so we made a convert that day.

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Cool story! I just wish my wife would want to shoot guns one of these days. I have a Glock G17 9mm (thinking about getting a G30 .45). She only wants to take pictures with her holding it, but not actually shooting it. One time, one of my buddies brought over his newly bought AR. My wife looked excited about holding it. However, she would not shoot the thing when we ask her to.

vesicles said:

Cool story! I just wish my wife would want to shoot guns one of these days. I have a Glock G17 9mm (thinking about getting a G30 .45). She only wants to take pictures with her holding it, but not actually shooting it. One time, one of my buddies brought over his newly bought AR. My wife looked excited about holding it. However, she would not shoot the thing when we ask her to.

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I have a Ruger 9mm and really like it. Good handgun.

My wife really does shoot our .44 mag and is good at it. She likes to shoot the Mini-14 too (.223).

She does not like as well the type of shooting out in the hills like me and my sons do...enjoys more an official gun range. Have you tried an indoor range with your wife for the handgun?

And then perhaps a nice outdoor range for the AR?

Once she tried it and liked it...it was no problem after that. She enjoyed the competition too. Taking some targets and setting them up on the range and then seeing who got the best score. Whenever she bested me you could tell she was proud of herself and I was proud of her too. I want her to be a very good shot so if she ever needs it, she can use the weapons appropriately and efficently to defend herself...God forbid it ever comes to that.

Well the .22 is still king, and it still beat nuthin everytime, I bought her a 3913 LS when we first got married as we had a rotten varmint, she was a hairdressor, but she just couldn't rack the slide as it had a very stiff recoil spring, so I traded that for a Taurus 92 in bright nickel, which she shot fairly well, but it was to large. I ended up buying her a k-22. which is built on a 38 frame, she named it Billy, and has it to this day. It is much simpler to bring a revolver into battery, although any small 22 will do, I suggest a little larger one until someone is comfortable safely handling their fire arm. If she just wants her picture taken with it thats great, help her learn to hold it and take her picture, take her to the range with some other girls that she likes who are shooters. Girls are herd animals, they prefer activities with other girls, shoot, I would much rather go out with my buddies and I work a little harder. The two women who went ape over my guns, were both from out of the country one from Calcutta, the wife of a friend had to handle each one, she particularly liked the 44 mag, the other an African missionary who has built an orphanage insisted I take her picture with the AR-15, and stated "O, pastor bax, if you could only help me take one of these home, I could keep my children safe from the bad men" still makes me want to cry, she was later attacked by a group of men who invaded her compound and beat her and the children, she later emailed me, if I only had one of your guns I could have been safe. She had never seen or handled a weapon of any kind, had only seen a horse when the president had come to their village. We are very blessed, to be able to defend ourselves, others around the world have had those freedoms taken from them.

Air Force Brat said:

...if I only had one of your guns I could have been safe. She had never seen or handled a weapon of any kind, had only seen a horse when the president had come to their village. We are very blessed, to be able to defend ourselves, others around the world have had those freedoms taken from them.

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Amen to that. The principle purpose of the 2nd amendment was to allow the citizens to protect the Republic against tyrranical government...and then to protect ones self against local criminals.

With the numbers of people armed in the US...something approaching 160 million, it suffices to this day for both. Think of all the deer, elk, moose and other big game hunters...tens of millions of them...who are proficient at long range shooting with high pwered rifles. I have three of them myself and myself, my sons, my wife, and one of my daughters are all crack shots.

Nothing works better for self-protection either. 911 just informs the police there is something wrong. In well over 90% of the cases they do not arrive until the event is already over.

Anyhow, it is a great blessing.

Well it is certainly a rare priveledge as well as a grave responsibility, to defend our nation, our families, and our freedoms. God help us in these dangerous times as well as all men and women who love and seek freedom for themselves, as well as others. May you all enjoy His blessing of peace in this New Year!

Hey Jeff, Brat & maybe vesicles, since I have the operators with hands on experiance here in this threat, I really wonder what it's like shooting a shotgun.
Has anyone of you ever done that?
How far could you really shoot such a weapons before dispersion becomes too big? Or how bad is the recoil really?
If anyone could again eleborate a bit, that would be great.

Well scratch things must be tough on the continent, I grew up reading those stories of hunting red stag etc. in Outdoor life.LOL Honestly, I found shotgunning rather unpleasant as a child, then a young man. My Dad liked a 12 guage, which does have rather healthy kick on both ends, and he bought me a rather light single shot, with a break open action. We mostly hunted quail, which were a blast, but a challenge to get the lead on and drop. A heavier automatic or pump takes a lot of the recoil out of the experience as does actually shooting at wild game. I'm sure the other guys would agree that as an adult shotguns are a blast and many folks shoot trap and sporting clays as opposed to or in preparation for hunting. As far as a personal defense weapon a shotgun is quite effective with a slug, and many in Alaska and places with bears recommend that for up close bear medicine, some stating they prefer a shotgun and slug to a rifle. So a slug is effective on deer sized game from 35 to 100 yds, depending on how accurate you and your weapon are. Some also like buckshot out to 50 or so yds, with 6 to 12 pellets depending on the size of the pellets. And then their is lead shot from #2 to #8, the lower numbers being larger. I happened to hunt with 8s most of the time, when hunting quail or rabbits, stepping up to #6 for pheasant. Again range varies by skill, but most quail are likely shot between 10 to 50 yds., with 50 being on the longish side and 10 a little to close. My sorry Dr. showed me a Merkel that one of his patients had given him, so I ended up trading my best old smith and wesson revolver for a Merkel 12 guage double, I believe master scratch manufactored in the Suhl region of Germany.