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The Mark Duggan incident reminds me more of the gunning down in the street of innocent Stephen Waldorf in 1983 when a hail of bullets were pumped into this man but he survived and eventually got £150,000 compensation.None of the police got charged.The investigation of this sought to ensure that a similar occurence would never happen again,Hmm.

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Estonian Defense Ministry siege

A shooter has attacked the building of Estonia’s Defense Ministry in the country’s capital, Tallinn and taken a hostage, witnesses say, according to local media.
*They say there were three shots, adding that the gunman was speaking Russian.

Meanwhile, according to a source in the ministry it was a former serviceman who entered the building, detonated a smoke-puff charge and then opened fire. Reportedly, the man took a hostage and then let him or her go.

All the employees have been evacuated, the area has been cordoned off by police
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Shooter who attacked Estonian Defense Ministry HQ killed

*A shooter who attacked Defense Ministry in downtown Tallinn earlier on Thursday has been killed and the hostages freed, according to Estonian Public Broadcasting. Earlier it was reported the man had been detained. No one else has been hurt, the broadcaster confirmed.
 

bd popeye

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I'm scared! Not.. I don't do facebook but still....Be sure to watch the video..they hadda to be smokin' sumpthin!

[video=youtube;SWQTS8zqYXU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQTS8zqYXU&feature=player_embedded[/video]

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The group of hackers known as Anonymous has vowed to 'destroy' Facebook on November 5, the night which commemorates Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot.

The 'hacktivists', infamous for meddling with the American government and for their support for WikiLeaks, have announced that they will focus on bringing down the social networking site because of its privacy policy.

Facebook was started in 2004 and has more than 750 million users worldwide. Its 27-year-old CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, is thought to be worth £8.3 billion ($13.5 billion) according to Forbes.

And while its popularity appears to be increasing, many questions remain over privacy issues - there are fears that the information uploaded by users will be passed on to other sources

Anonymous, whose members have been known to wear Guy Fawkes hats - copying the film V for Vendetta - when they appear in public, has launched what it calls 'Operation Facebook'.

It has pledged to bring down the California-based company on November 5 - Bonfire Night - which commemorates the day in 1605 when Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament.

Anonymous said that this November 5 'will go down in history. It added: 'One day you will look back on this and realise what we have done here is right, you will thank the rulers of the internet, we are not harming you but saving you.

'The riots are under way. It is not a battle over the future of privacy and publicity. It is a battle for choice and informed consent.'

Last month the group created a Twitter account and uploaded a YouTube video, called 'Message from Anonymous: Operation Facebook, Nov 5 2011', to highlight its intentions - and has urged those willing to rise up against Facebook to join it.

The chilling video, a two-minute warning and explanation using a computerised voice, begins: 'Attention citizens of the world ... Your medium of communication you all so dearly adore will be destroyed.

'If you are a willing hacktivist or a guy who just wants to protect the freedom of information then join the cause and kill Facebook for the sake of your own privacy.

'Facebook has been selling information to government agencies and giving clandestine access to information security firms so that they can spy on people from all around the world.'

The message continues: 'Everything you do on Facebook stays on Facebook regardless of your "privacy" settings, and deleting your account is impossible.

'Even if you "delete" your account, all your personal info stays on Facebook and can be recovered at any time.

'Facebook knows more about you than your family. You cannot hide from the reality in which you, the people of the internet, live in.

'People are being raped, tickled, molested, and confused into doing things where they don't understand the consequences.

Facebook keeps saying that it gives users choices, but that is completely false. It gives users the illusion of and hides the details away from them "for their own good" while they then make millions off of you.'

The video concludes: 'This is our world now. We exist without nationality, without religious bias ... We have the right to not live as slaves.

'We are anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.'

However, Eugene Kaspersky, co-founder and CEO of Kaspersky Lab and a security expert, poured scorn on the threat and used Twitter to say: 'The news around #Anonymous to attack #Facebook on Nov 5 most probably is fake.'

A comment from Facebook was not forthcoming when MailOnline contacted the press office.

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latenlazy

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Yano, it's funny. In Model UN we had a committee that was dedicated to debating the cybersecurity topic while a crisis team threw simulated events to shape the debate and test for reactions, and afterwards in our feedback we were told some of our scenarios weren't realistic. Then the anonymous hacks started happening.

In fact, we named one of our cyberterrorists "anonymous".
 

AssassinsMace

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I think there should be a revolution against those who think they know what's best for everyone else. They usually do the very thing they accuse someone else of doing. What's the difference? Because they're doing it for what's best for everyone else. Yeah Hitler said the same thing. What's being accused of Facebook isn't anything different from what can be accused of any other internet company. And what gives "anonymous" the right to decide for everyone else?

It's a matter of the right to choose. Maybe the Pavlovian dogs out there think that's only for abortion. But of course someone who believes they're fighting for a cause beyond their self gets to circumvent the very rights they're supposedly trying to protect. Simpletons out there make the difference black and white... wrong and right. They're all the same because at the heart of it it's all about power over others. Whether it's religion or the environment, it's always a select few that get to interpret everything else to everyone else and they all break their own rules because they're doing it for the good and they would only know when it's appropriate. What do you think it means by the saying, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
 

AssassinsMace

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Well that's the difference between me and you. I don't think in black and white. That's why when you lied about overwhelming chickens exports from China to the US to make your argument when it was actually the other way, you didn't see any problem with that because you think you're on the good side. And good people get to lie because it's for the good.
 

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And good people get to lie because it's for the good.
It is for the good just like how Britain claimed opium is supposed to be good for you a century ago.

If Western governments see violence as good in other countries then they shouldn't complain when it is happening in their own countries.
 
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bladerunner

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If Western governments see violence as good in other countries then they shouldn't complain when it is happening in their own countries.

Ive been censured for using one word answers by the mods, so i wont, but you do catch my drift dont you? Not only that you too could be accused of seeing things in black and white.
 
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