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vincent

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I wonder how much Raytheon paid for the "let's buy Tomahawk" article.

The Frigate thing is dumb. Or rather, it's not what it's about. Which is, to be fair, the usual state of affairs.

It has been known forever that the Frigates will be fitted with the indigenous CEAFAR radar. Question is whether the radar can adequately support long-range engagements. If the answer is 'yes' then of course you equip the ship with SM-2s. If the answer is 'no' then obviously you don't.

And if it's a question of how much we want to spend on the radar and therefore the ship and, well, couldn't we really use more than three SM-2-equipped vessels, that too isn't really about the wisdom of fitting a supposedly ASW-focussed vessel with SM-2s, but rather about the inadequacy of our current Air Warfare Destroyer program!

Elephants, elephants all the way down!

They have to deter Big Bad China from invading Aussie homeland!
 
now noticed about Sustaining the capability superiority of Collins

4 October 2017
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Minister for Defence, Senator the Hon Marise Payne, and Minister for Defence Industry, the Hon Christopher Pyne MP, announced today two projects to sustain the capability superiority of the Collins submarine fleet until its replacement by the future submarine.

“The 2016 Defence White Paper makes it clear submarines are an essential part of Australia’s defence strategy and a powerful instrument for deterring conflict and contributing to anti-submarine warfare in our region,” Minister Payne said.

“The Government is committed to continuing appropriate investments in the Collins class, including priority capability enhancements, obsolescence management and fleet sustainment.

“This will ensure Australia maintains a potent and agile submarine capability until the introduction of the future submarine fleet.”

The first project addresses obsolescence in the control system to allow safe operation of the submarines, while the second provides improved submarine communications capability.

Minister Pyne said the involvement of Australian defence industry, as part of Australia’s submarine enterprise, is fundamental to our ability to manage and sustain a multi-class submarine fleet.

“On average, 120 people per year across New South Wales, South Australia and Western Australia will be employed over the life of the program,” Minister Pyne said.

“Combined the projects will inject approximately $540 million into the Australian economy over the next 20 years, with $300 million going into South Australia, $65 million to New South Wales, and $175 million to Western Australia.”

While ASC will manage the integration of the updated systems, Defence has engaged SAAB Australia to update the control system.

The expertise and experience of Raytheon Australia, in the role of Collins Combat Systems Integrator, will be leveraged to coordinate the communications upgrade.

The Turnbull Government is also pleased to advise that the Collins Class Submarines project (CN 10) has been officially removed from the Projects of Concern list. This project was added to the list in November 2008, but given the extraordinary effort that has been put into rectifying the issues associated with the Collins Class project, and given that submarine availability is now meeting international benchmarks, the Government is confident that the project can be removed from the list.
 
according to USNI News Australia’s Amphibious Force Nearing Full Operational Capability
The Australian Defence Force (ADF) is nearing full operational capability of its amphibious force, after a six-year effort to turn an Army battalion into the heart of a joint-service expeditionary capability akin to the U.S. Marine Corps.

Despite being an island itself, and having only islands as its closest neighbors, the ADF never set up a dedicated amphibious force. As part of an effort to modernize its military, though,
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to turn its 2nd Battalion of the Royal Australian Regiment (2 RAR) into a permanent pre-landing force, with other Army units rotating through annually to serve as the ground combat element on the ADF’s three-ship Amphibious Ready Group.

After years of planning, reorganizing and training, the commander of the ADF’s Deployable Joint Force Headquarters has certified that the amphibious force is ready for operations, after using this summer’s
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as a final certification event. All that remains is for the Chief of Navy to sign off on that recommendation, certify that the three amphibious ships are deployable, and declare the force fully operational.

Maj. Gen. Paul McLachlan, commander of the Deployable Joint Force Headquarter and the Australian Army’s 1st Division, told USNI News that this year’s final certification event came on the heels of a very successful year last year and a half, which included sending the new Canberra-class large amphibious ship to its first real-world disaster relief mission, and participating in the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2016 exercise.

In February 2016, HMAS Canberra (L02) deployed to Fiji after Tropical Cyclone Winston severely damaged the island chain.
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and perfectly demonstrated a primary purpose of Australia’s amphib force: to support humanitarian assistance and disaster relief missions in the region.

Just months later,
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, where they could practice not only HA/DR missions but also higher-threat missions as part of a multinational coalition – the other intent for the amphib force.

One benefit of the RIMPAC participation was that “we got to show the region, all the participants at RIMPAC, the Canberra class and where we are with it and where we are with our amphibious force,” McLachlan said, adding that the exercise also demonstrated an important lesson to the ADF.
“It’s not just about that amphibious capability. The blue water requirements, the joint capability required, the air and sea control, the escort, the submarine that are required to employ amphibious forces successfully are important. So bringing that amphibious capability into the ADF RIMPAC deployment was absolutely fantastic to open their eyes as to what’s required in the successful employment of an amphibious force.”

McLachlan said the international component of RIMPAC and again at Talisman Saber 2017 were important, given the vision for Australia’s amphibious force.

“We’re a small-middle power, we have no aspirations of unilateral force projection, but certainly the ability to transport and sustain forces, joint forces within the region is an incredibly important capability and something that the government decided that we would pursue,” the general said.
“We strive to become a contemporary force, and in a nation that is as much an island as Australia is, it makes absolutely no sense if you don’t have the capacity to deploy a legitimate and competent amphibious capability. We’re not aspiring for this to be a significant force projection capability – because to be perfectly frank that is beyond the capacity we have designed and trained for – but that capability would certainly be a highly competent contribution to a multinational coalition in a higher threat spectrum, if that were required and authorized. Closer to home, it gives us an amazing capability to go and help the region, and that is one of the key aspects that we are building and training this force to deliver.”

Though intuitive for the island to have an amphibious force that can respond to natural disasters or join Pacific allies in a bigger fight, the development of the force hasn’t been without challenges.

First was finding the manpower. The ADF decided early on it couldn’t support a Marine Corps, so the venture would have to be a joint service one, with a hybrid model that relied on some full-time experts and some rotating units. In the end, 2 RAR was selected to serve as the permanent force that will conduct pre-landing activities – the 300 or so soldiers in the unit will serve as the command and control element, small boat operators, reconnaissance and snipers that go ashore on the small boats, a communications element and a logistics element. The actual ground combat unit that will be brought ashore for the fight will rotate each year.

To train this rotational ground combat force, a Sea Series of exercises will serve as training and certification events: Sea Explorer will assess command and control, Sea Horizon will ensure the soldiers are proficient at embarking and debarking by surface craft and helicopters, and Sea Raider will be an overall demonstration of amphibious capability that will certify that year’s unit as ready to deploy.

McLachlan said this is a big change for the ADF, which brings with it some cultural problems, but he said he’s confident the amphibious force is on the right path.

“The amphibious capability is fundamentally going to change the way the whole ADF operates because it is a particularly utilitarian capability in our region, and the whole – all of our Army, Air Force and Navy – need to understand what they have to bring to the amphibious capability. Now, that’s going to take a period of time to inject into our ADF, so it’s an evolutionary thing and I personally believe that we’re going to need to do those yearly rotations for about six years before we start to really generate a fully informed and pervasive amphibious awareness and capability within the ADF. But once we get there, I think there will always be someone in the readying force that has a good deal of amphibious understanding, so we will get better at it over that time.”

In the event of a major contingency, he said, the rotational ground force concept would mean a larger pool of soldiers would be familiar with amphibious operations and therefore could deploy aboard Australian or allied ships if needed.

Still, operating onboard a ship is not necessarily a talent all the soldiers wanted to learn.

“We have soldiers that joined to be soldiers, who now find themselves operating for long periods of time off a ship in the maritime environment,” he said.
“Now, if you join the [U.S.] Marines, you know what you’re in for. But five years ago, if you joined 2 RAR you did not expect to be deployed on and from a ship. … The organization is changing quite significantly, and that is just part of the amphibious journey going forward, but learning how to operate on the ship as well as staying good at being soldiers operating off the land has been a significant challenge that actually I think has been very well handled by the 2nd Battalion.”

Another cultural challenge has been learning to operate in a joint environment – something certainly not unique to the ADF, as U.S. military officials still cite that as a challenge for them. McLachlan noted the move to “joint command and control systems off what has previously been a single-service platform, so you’ve got to get people willing to give up bandwidth from the ship’s operating capability in order to achieve the joint mission, and that’s a very difficult thing to achieve.”

McLachlan said he expected to see the quality of the amphibious force to go up as more annual rotations occur, but he said he’s proud of the progress that has been made leading up to Talisman Saber 2017.

“From my perspective, we demonstrated a certifiable capability for the amphibious element that was deployed on Talisman Saber, and that advice has gone up” to the Chief of Navy for consideration, he said.
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SamuraiBlue

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Size of new submarines locked in

Australia's new submarine fleet may end up with conventional propellers as well as air independent propulsion, which helps increase underwater endurance.

The French shipbuilder commissioned to design Australia's new fleet of submarines has bedded down the size and shape of the vessels.

Naval Group executive director of the Australian submarine program Jean-Michel Billig says the decision represents an important milestone in the pre-design phase of the $50 billion program.

"We know what shall be the length, what shall be the diameter of the submarine," he told reporters at the Pacific 17 maritime showcase in Sydney on Wednesday.

But he declined to provide the specific details because it's sensitive information.......

"We are not converting a nuclear-powered submarine into a conventional submarine, we are starting from scratch," he said.......to read more
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Basically DCNS admitted that they had no design for the "Competitive Evaluation Process" and Australia basically made it into a cheap ploy so they can create jobs in SA.
Talk about dishonesty to the other tenders who participated.
Well at least Australia is now paying for their own mistakes with reports stating that those subs will not be ready till 2040 in which they will be without a sub for a decade.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Basically DCNS admitted that they had no design for the "Competitive Evaluation Process" and Australia basically made it into a cheap ploy so they can create jobs in SA.
Talk about dishonesty to the other tenders who participated.
Well at least Australia is now paying for their own mistakes with reports stating that those subs will not be ready till 2040 in which they will be without a sub for a decade.
It's not cheap Blue, it's likely to be expensive
 

Lethe

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Basically DCNS admitted that they had no design for the "Competitive Evaluation Process" and Australia basically made it into a cheap ploy so they can create jobs in SA.
Talk about dishonesty to the other tenders who participated.

I have my own doubts about the wisdom of Australia's submarine procurement program, but there is no reason to impugn the integrity of the selection process.

From the very beginning it was specified that domestic industry involvement was required. This is a routine feature in Australian naval projects, and throughout the world. Japan was certainly aware of this requirement.

None of the three manufacturers considered for the contract were offering an "off the shelf" product because such would not meet Australian requirements (which included, amongst other things, an American combat system). The Japanese proposal, building off the existing Soryu-class, probably offered the lowest risk, while the French proposal offered the greatest amount of risk (although in practice it may not have been terribly different from the German). But these are merely differences of degree.

Regarding the charge that Naval Group "had no design" at the time of selection, this reflects a basic misunderstanding of how the process works. DCNS (as it was at the time) got wind of a future Australian submarine requirement and created various concepts that could meet Australia's anticipated requirements, such as SMX Ocean. But the manufacturer's concept is merely illustrative: it is the customer who decides what they want. And when responding to an RFP, the manufacturer will supply not only an illustrative concept, but will also seek to illuminate the full range of the possibility space. The proposal that Australia selected was almost certainly not identical to any specific concept previously floated by DCNS, and no doubt various details have been further refined post-selection, and will continue to be refined. That does not mean that DCNS misrepresented its proposals.

One can reasonably question Australia's decision to pursue the design offering the greatest capability with the greatest risk and likely greatest cost, but there is no need to mischaracterise the process or impugn the integrity of the Australian government.
 
I have my own doubts about the wisdom of Australia's submarine procurement program, but there is no reason to impugn the integrity of the selection process.

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business as usual, like item #4 in Aug 17, 2016 post:
coincidences:
  1. Beazley joins Lockheed Martin Australia board
    June 9, 2016 "Former Defence Minister Kim Beazley has joined the board of Lockheed Martin Australia. ..."
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  2. Former Fleet Air Arm Commander to lead Lockheed Martin Australia
    August 3, 2016 "Former Fleet Air Arm Commander Vince Di Pietro will succeed Raydon Gates as vice president and chief executive of Lockheed Martin Australia from January 2017. ..."
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  3. Former CAF Geoff Brown joins Lockheed Martin Australia board
    August 5, 2016 "Former Chief of Air Force Geoff Brown has been appointed to the Lockheed Martin Australia board. ..."
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  4. Former senior defence adviser now heading French sub builder
    May 16, 2015 "EXCLUSIVE: A former senior government adviser who enjoyed privileged access to top-secret information about the navy’s future submarine project has taken a high paid job with one of three foreign contenders for the $20 billion plus contract. ..."
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... France, on the other hand, mobilized its vast and experienced military-industrial complex and hired a powerful Australian submarine industry insider, Sean Costello, who led it to an unexpected victory.

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FRENCH OVERTURES

Still, France saw an opportunity to get into the game. In November 2014, DCNS CEO Herve Guillou prevailed on French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian to visit Australia and start the pitch for France.

Le Drian traveled to Albany in the country's remote southwest, where officials had gathered to commemorate the 100 year anniversary of the first sailing of Australian soldiers to fight on France's Western Front during World War One.

The poignant shared history opened the door to discussions about the submarine contract, a source close to the French Ministry of Defense told Reuters.

"The French minister wished to be there for this important event. There, he held talks with his Australian counterpart David Johnston and with ... Abbott," said the source, who along with other officials asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
from inside of Apr 30, 2016 post
Reuters again, yesterday:
How France sank Japan's $40 billion Australian submarine dream

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Lethe

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Yeah, there's a lot one could say about the 'revolving industry-government' door and certain acquisition projects. But in the interest of not going off-topic, the article you link hardly supports the contention that Australia took Japan for a ride on the submarine contract. If anything it suggests the opposite, unless you think that a personal friendship between two Prime Ministers is a suitable basis for a submarine contract.
 
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Restricted Australian defence data hacked
10:12PM October 11, 2017
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The signals intelligence agency has revealed about 30 gigabytes of restricted information on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the P-8 submarine hunters and Australian naval vessels was stolen in a hacking attack.

The hacker had access to the data for three months before the Australian Signals Directorate became aware of it. The ASD referred to the period — between July and November 2016 — as “Alf’s Mystery Happy Fun Time”, in a reference to a Home and Away character.

The federal minister responsible for cyber security, Dan Tehan, revealed this week a hacker understood to be based in China had stolen “significant” data from an Australian defence contractor.

At an industry conference in Sydney yesterday, ASD employee Mitchell Clarke provided details about the hack on a 50-person aerospace engineering firm that subcontracts to the Defence Department.

“That … archive contained about 30 gigabytes of defence and other commercially sensitive data. A lot of the data was ITAR, ITAR is the US International Traffic in Arms Regulations,” Mr Clarke told the Australian Information Security Association conference, according to audio provided to The Australian by freelance journalist Stilgherrian.

“That ITAR data included information on the Joint Strike Fighters, the C-130, the P-8 Poseidon, the JDAM — that’s a smart bomb — and a few Australian naval vessels, to the point where we found one document (that) was like a wire-diagram of one of the navy’s new ships and you could sort of like zoom in down the captain’s chair and see that it’s 1m away from the (navigation) chair and all that sort of thing.”

Mr Clarke labelled the company as “sloppy” and revealed it relied on one IT employee who had only been in the job for nine months.

He said the hacker could have easily accessed the data.

“It turns out the actor didn’t even have to exploit the vulnerability of this service. When it was set up it was set up with default credentials and they were never changed. Admin: Admin got you into the web admin portal and you could hit that from the internet, guest: guest as well, obviously,” he said.

Mr Clarke said departments routinely told ASD they had found remote-control webshells on their computer servers.

“It really makes me cry every time a government department calls up and says ‘hey ASD just letting you guys know we have a China trouble webshell or whatever webshell on our server but don’t worry we’ve deleted it, it’s good to go’,” he said.

Mr Clarke also said the hacked company’s IT helpdesk portal was out of date.

He said this type of practice would not be unusual for a government organisation.

A spokesman for the Australian Cyber Security Centre said the information disclosed by Mr Clarke was not “top secret” or “secret”.

“While the Australian company is a national-security linked contractor and the information disclosed was commercially sensitive, it was unclassified. The government does not intend to discuss further the details of this cyber incident,” he said.
 

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Australia's SEA5000 ASW Frigates to be Fitted with AEGIS Combat System and CEA Radar

The Australian Governement announced a multi-billion dollar investment today at the PACIFIC 2017 exhibition, to equip the future SEA5000 Frigate of the Royal Australian Navy with what it called "the world’s best technology". Under the plan, the combat management system for Australia’s fleet of nine Future Frigates will be provided by the Aegis Combat Management System, together with an Australian tactical interface, which will be developed by SAAB Australia
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