Artificial Intelligence thread

iewgnem

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Alpha DeepSeek entering the AI arena.

They're so screwed if they get into a price war with Deepseek and undermine their own paid models to retain users, lol
But you got do what you gota do when desperate to placate investors flooding him with calls about Deekseek.

You know, everyone kinda made an implicit assumption that Deepseek is releasing and open-sourcing their latest models as they come out, and that they make all their money from their trading business, but how valid is that assumption?

Because if Deepseek, a private for-profit company, did not infact open-source their latest models as it comes out, and infact gives Chinese gov or corporate users confidential paid access to their actual latest models....
 

siegecrossbow

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They're so screwed if they get into a price war with Deepseek and undermine their own paid models to retain users, lol
But you got do what you gota do when desperate to placate investors flooding him with calls about Deekseek.

You know, everyone kinda made an implicit assumption that Deepseek is releasing and open-sourcing their latest models as they come out, and that they make all their money from their trading business, but how valid is that assumption?

Because if Deepseek, a private for-profit company, did not infact open-source their latest models as it comes out, and infact gives Chinese gov or corporate users confidential paid access to their actual latest models....

Easy, just invest in DeepSeek.
 

tphuang

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Deepseek may not actually have the best model from China actually.

ByteDance model might be better, but since it didn't open source it or have the street cred of being a virtuous group of geeks just looking to reach the noble goal of AGI, people all started using it in the past 48 hours.

This is a movement. Seriously, Meta's entire LLM plan is going down if they can't do better than Deepseek.

Chinese people are so bad at marketing. com'on, where are the middle eastern money?
 

tokenanalyst

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They're so screwed if they get into a price war with Deepseek and undermine their own paid models to retain users, lol
But you got do what you gota do when desperate to placate investors flooding him with calls about Deekseek.

You know, everyone kinda made an implicit assumption that Deepseek is releasing and open-sourcing their latest models as they come out, and that they make all their money from their trading business, but how valid is that assumption?
I think they are gonna get pretty big contracts inside China AI infrastructure built up. One of their guys was with Li Qiang talking the other day. Apart from that China is focusing in practical AI that could overcome hardware constraints and applications that can run locally rather than a cloud server and looks like DeepSeek guys excell at compute - performance better than anyone.
 

tokenanalyst

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Deepseek may not actually have the best model from China actually.

ByteDance model might be better, but since it didn't open source it or have the street cred of being a virtuous group of geeks just looking to reach the noble goal of AGI, people all started using it in the past 48 hours.

This is a movement. Seriously, Meta's entire LLM plan is going down if they can't do better than Deepseek.

Chinese people are so bad at marketing. com'on, where are the middle eastern money?

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Xiongmao

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the web search function on deepseek app is really good and I am just using it now for any search. Anyone else doing this?
Yes, I use the search on DeepSeek. It searches around 30-40 links and summarizes the results succinctly for me. I am waiting for the day that it has the ability to go to SDF and give me a potted summary of what's going on today so that I don't have to peruse here if I am short on time.
 
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