Are female pilots as good?

Kurt

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Considering that the cultural training starts at infancy, and is 99.9% prevalent, it's effectively an innate characteristic.
It's very disputed and a complex issue. There are girls who can pown you in video games. Run a test. It's not like every man is suitable as a heavy weight lifter, same goes for girls, they vary a lot and did always include outstanding fighters (who solved the whole space and tactics issue), Chinese history should give you plenty of examples.
 

Air Force Brat

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Considering that the cultural training starts at infancy, and is 99.9% prevalent, it's effectively an innate characteristic.

Well it comes back to the old nature vs nurture debate, the first question I would ask is how many daughters have you raised, I have seven the youngest two are 14. In spite of taking my little girls flying, all of them but one, and she didn't want to go, taking them for rides on motorcycles, tractors, and allowing them to drive from 3-4 yrs of age, none has an affinity for flying, one really likes it. Lets shift our focus away from flying, how many women as opposed to men do you know who? fill in the blank, 1 ride sport bikes, not cruisers, not harleys, 2 Shoot for fun, without having to be taken out by the guys, prolly more than ride sport bikes 3 Hunt, here again not with the guys, but get out there and spot and stalk- deer, turkey, rabbit, quail? 4 build or fly model airplanes? 5 Own jet boats with a V-8 and berkley or jacuzzi pump? 6 Fish and clean them? Now, I'm not say that women can't, thinking of Jaqueline Cochran, Julie Clark, Patty Wagstaff to name a few who are really good, but they are a rarity, so men are far more apt to "want to fly" than women. Lots of the old cultural barriers are down in America, Nascar really wants a chick behind the wheel, so does Indy, and so does formula one, and the Air Force is actively head hunting lady airplane drivers, and they have some lady airplane "drivers", how many are "pilots". Like I said my reporter friend freaked on me, and she was a jock type, I'll try anything chick, she said "I can't do this." No you're doing fine, I keep burning film, I got some great shots, she said "I can't do this", about four octaves higher in pitch, No your doing fine, I keep burning film, still getting some great air to air shots, finally at the top of her lungs she screeches at me, "I can't do this"! Yes maam, I've got the airplane, heres the camera, a quick call to my wingman and he slides under my belly and forms up on my right wing and shes back in her comfort zone after a few minutes on the shutter, and she gets some great shots?

You are right, this could be considered sexist, and are they as good is probably not a fair question, I think we honestly would have to say that a lot of guys aren't what we would consider "naturals", flying is something that you either "get" or don't, I flew with a Dr. friend who was very "ham handed on the throttle, even on the ground I could tell he really wasn't in tune with the aircraft, and it showed. I think the movie was titled "The Right Stuff" and I think thats probably a fair description of what it takes to be "good", to have true talent and to be an airshow pilot or demo pilot, you're either born with it, or your not!
 
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Air Force Brat

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According to CCTV's report although female pilots are not as physically strong or tolerant of higher G's as their male counterparts, they are quicker learners and are a lot better at reading the instruments... Which means that they are less accident-prone and that the age old stereotype perpetuated by feminists is actually true to a certain extent.

Now Siege you are making general statements lad, and I would dare say that their accident rate is likely higher, but I doubt you will ever see a black and white statistical breackdown of hard data on that, and the feminists are just as sexist as the male chauvinist. They are far more detail oriented and likely much more conscientious on pre flights, but they also likely have lower mechanical aptitude, and in an emergency, ie something falls off, "yes, it does happen", they may find it more difficult to work the solution and improvise or break the rules. Now all of this is strictly my opinion, but I do have a lot of anecdotal evidence, and hours of observation to back up my obnoxious opinions, and yes I Am Smirking. its a good thing bossette has gone to bed, or she would likely walk over and slap me, just seeing my expression!LOL
 

bladerunner

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A woman probably told you that no name? My wife tells me how it is all the time!

Yup and if only one was as clever as the missus the previous week as she is today.

You are right, this could be considered sexist, and are they as good is probably not a fair question, I think we honestly would have to say that a lot of guys aren't what we would consider "naturals", flying is something that you either "get" or don't, I flew with a Dr. friend who was very "ham handed on the throttle, even on the ground I could tell he really wasn't in tune with the aircraft, and it showed. I think the movie was titled "The Right Stuff" and I think thats probably a fair description of what it takes to be "good", to have true talent and to be an airshow pilot or demo pilot, you're either born with it, or your not!

You sound like a bush pilot that has been taught to fly by the seat of their pants. I may have misunderstood the guy i was talking to, but i distinctly got the impression that the modern fighterjet can't fly without the aid of computers.
 
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i.e.

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During WW2 Red airforce has used female combat pilots to fly its fighter and bombers with no problem, not just Po-2 Nachtvaxens but fast combat fighters and fighterbombers...end up having 2 female fighter aces.

i have personally flown (as an engineer/observer) both in flight test and simulators with female pilots, I found them more observant and more intunned to details then their male counter part.
 
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Air Force Brat

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During WW2 Red airforce has used female combat pilots to fly its fighter and bombers with no problem, not just Po-2 Nachtvaxens but fast combat fighters and fighterbombers...end up having 2 female fighter aces.

i have personally flown (as an engineer/observer) both in flight test and simulators with female pilots, I found them more observant and more intunned to details then their male counter part.

I note that in post 24 i.e. What type of aircraft are we referring to, and military or civilian ops? They are likely more attentive to the analog data of the flight instruments because they are likely not as perceptive to the tactile info received by the well tuned Mark I pilot Butt. I note that as a mechanic, women tend to be less cognizant of their machines audible, tactile, even visual appearance. Of course having hands on experience does qualify you as an "expert witness", and I look forward to your detailed observations to back up your statements, but in my experience with all types of high performance vehicles, air, land, and sea, the gentlemen seem more attuned to their equipment and in general have a more advanced understanding of the equipment and why it responds as it does to control and environmental inputs, and a greater sense of their vehicles capabilities and where it is within the flight envelope.
 

Air Force Brat

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Yup and if only one was as clever as the missus the previous week as she is today.



You sound like a bush pilot that has been taught to fly by the seat of their pants. I may have misunderstood the guy i was talking to, but i distinctly got the impression that the modern fighterjet can't fly without the aid of computers.

You may have been given a slanted impression blade, all pilots fly by the seat of their pants, that expression is used because the butt is tied to the seat of the aircraft, but the pilot also has his/her hands on the yoke or stick, and his feet on the floor/rudder pedals/ brake pedals , and his eyes, ears, and all of his senses tuned in to the aircraft and its "input". Whether or not they are connected by electro/mechanical means, the controls still are a direct connection to the aircraft and control input!
 
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