American Economics Thread

chgough34

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The contention is the US economy. It is not limited to some 35 year old whatever. The chart shows the full economy of the US in terms of home ownership. It is the correct cohort on the correct topic. You will not limit or cherry pick the data with me.
In order to study young homeowners, you add an age restriction. Shocking.
No: You have confused net worth with income.
No, I haven’t. That’s the default SCF tab; the main purpose of it was just to show that it was real values.
Take a stance. Either say something is good, reliable research or say it's not hard-hitting research. Right now, you're like, "This guy says what I want to hear; listen to him. Oh wait, ok he got exposed for dishonesty on his own post by multiple people, it's not hard-hitting research, no big deal. No wait, look at his new posts! I'm behind his new posts again; let's acknowledge those!"
It’s reliable research, it’s just a fairly simple mechanism of cutting and pasting from existing data (the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis did a very similar thing with the same results -https://www.stlouisfed.org/institute-for-economic-equity/the-state-of-us-wealth-inequality). . It’s not a particularly novel insight. There’s literally nothing wrong with the data. People are doing fine.

Also, not sure why you are so hung up on the data when even the economist referenced in the article mentioned that it has no particular economic meaning -
 
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manqiangrexue

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In order to study young homeowners, you add an age restriction.
I'm studying the US economy as a whole. Never said a thing about young home owners.
Shocking.
Well, that will happen to you at lot here if you're both mathematically illiterate with poor reading comprehension.
No, I haven’t. That’s the default SCF tab; the main purpose of it was just to show that it was real values.
Well, your purpose and the results don't always match. It showed real wage growth at 0.02% annually over 18 years in the US. Oops, shocking again, eh?
It’s reliable research, it’s just a fairly simple mechanism of cutting and pasting from existing data (the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis did a very similar thing with the same results -https://www.stlouisfed.org/institute-for-economic-equity/the-state-of-us-wealth-inequality). . It’s not a particularly novel insight. There’s literally nothing wrong with the data. People are doing fine.
It's a fairly simple mechanism of calling something inflation-adjusted when he simply added the tag to data that was not inflation-adjusted and then when caught, saying he did it himself with no particular explanation of how he did it.... by an "economist" who calls people complainers when ask questions such as, "Is it adjusted for inflation? What about median? Why a log scale? How much is real estate? How much is stocks?" Oh, and now, according to what you posted below, nobody knows where he made up his data from because apparently, the FED doesn't supply median generational net worth LOL Real dependable guy to cite, eh?
Also, not sure why you are so hung up on the data when even the economist referenced in the article mentioned that it has no particular economic meaning -
Cus you cited it. Why did you cite something with no particular meaning? There you go bending like grass in the wind again. It's not hard-hitting research... but it's reliable research... though it has no particular meaning. LOLOL
Funny fella counting his eggs before they hatch. Unfortunately for him, Intel's past failure does not equal future success.
a main driver of economic growth from FDI is the knowledge transfer from foreign firms (both of technology and management practices) as well as the pro-competitive effects with more firms
Looking at American kids, I wouldn't even count on American companies learning/mastering stuff that's spoon-fed to them. If it doesn't have something to do with LGBTQ values, racial equality, pop media or sports, (and drugs, don't forget drugs) Americans aren't interested. China knows something about knowledge transfer from foreign firms (heh heh)... and then educating the STEM wave to to seize the oppertunity to expand that knowledge to the top of the world.
 

chgough34

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It's a fairly simple mechanism of calling something inflation-adjusted when he simply added the tag to data that was not inflation-adjusted and then when caught, saying he did it himself with no particular explanation of how he did it.... by an "economist" who calls people complainers when ask questions such as, "Is it adjusted for inflation?
He divided it by the PCI and the CPI. It was literally in the graph header
What about median?
He already explained the Fed didn’t have that data
Why a log scale? How much is real estate? How much is stocks?"
He answered both
Oh, and now, according to what you posted below, nobody knows where he made up his data from because apparently, the FED doesn't supply median generational net worth LOL Real dependable guy to cite, eh?
He literally just did SUM on a spreadsheet. The micro data isn’t available for the SCF (and by extension, the DFA)
Cus you cited it. Why did you cite something with no particular meaning? There you go bending like grass in the wind again. It's not hard-hitting research... but it's reliable research... though it has no particular meaning. LOLOL
Yes, it’s what’s called doing a SUM function on a spreadsheet. You seem to be getting super caught up on words when the original research was a fairly regular thing of analyzing panel data (which the federal reserve bank of St. Louis)
Funny fella counting his eggs before they hatch. Unfortunately for him, Intel's past failure does not equal future success.

Looking at American kids, I wouldn't even count on American companies learning/mastering stuff that's spoon-fed to them. If it doesn't have something to do with LGBTQ values, racial equality, pop media or sports, (and drugs, don't forget drugs) Americans aren't interested. China knows something about knowledge transfer from foreign firms (heh heh)... and then educating the STEM wave to to seize the oppertunity to expand that knowledge to the top of the world.
I mean, you can take culture war grievances seriously or as the day-to-day partisan hackery that it is, but US firms are the largest in the world and in the technological frontier with employees that are ~80% U.S.-born.
 

manqiangrexue

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He divided it by the PCI and the CPI. It was literally in the graph header
Don't know what they are. Don't use uncommon abbreviations.
He already explained the Fed didn’t have that data
Right, cus it would highlight the article I posted about the inequality within GenX opening up massively.
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  • The wealth gap between rich millennials and the rest of their age group is the largest of any generation, creating a new wave of class tension and resentment, according to a study.
  • While the average millennial has less wealth at the age of 35 than previous generations, the top 10% of millennials have 20% more wealth than the top baby boomers at the same age.
He answered both
These aren't my questions to him; "Is it adjusted for inflation? What about median? Why a log scale? How much is real estate? How much is stocks?" This is what he calls "complainers" when they were people asking questions about his data. It just shows he had a very specific and biased narrative that anyone who takes issue is just a "complainer" so there can be no real issues.
He literally just did SUM on a spreadsheet. The micro data isn’t available for the SCF (and by extension, the DFA)

Yes, it’s what’s called doing a SUM function on a spreadsheet. You seem to be getting super caught up on words when the original research was a fairly regular thing of analyzing panel data (which the federal reserve bank of St. Louis)
So which way is the grass bending this time? It's not heavy-hitting research, or he's a realiable guy, or this has no particular meaning? LOL You've basically brought up a guy, then went base-to-base among "Listen to this guy," "He's not real hard-hitting research," "He's totally reliable," "His thing doesn't even have any meaning; why are you making a big deal of it?" Do you have multiple personality disorder?
I mean, you can take culture war grievances seriously or as the day-to-day partisan hackery that it is, but US firms are the largest in the world and in the technological frontier with employees that are ~80% U.S.-born.
I mean, 1. I need a source for the 80% claim, and 2. they are calling in all the favors around the world and still moving way slower than China in the tech war, which is already peer or above peer with the US in many areas. That's something that they can't change and that's what matters.
 
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chgough34

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Don't know what they are. Don't use uncommon abbreviations.
Common inflation measurements should t need to be spelled out on an “Economics Thread”
Right, cus it would highlight the article I posted about the inequality within GenX opening up massively.
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No. It doesn’t exist. The paper the article was referencing turns on an econometric estimate with more complex techniques than counting on a spreadsheet. It’s not readily available for summary.

These aren't my questions to him; "Is it adjusted for inflation? What about median? Why a log scale? How much is real estate? How much is stocks?" This is what he calls "complainers" when they were people asking questions about his data. It just shows he had a very specific and biased narrative that anyone who takes issue is just a "complainer" so there can be no real issues.
He addresses many of the same complaints with more graphs lol. It’s also not his fault people can’t read a graph that says “deflated by the PCE”.
So which way is the grass bending this time? It's not heavy-hitting research, or he's a realiable guy, or this has no particular meaning? LOL You've basically brought up a guy, then went base-to-base among "Listen to this guy," "He's not real hard-hitting research," "He's totally reliable," "His thing doesn't even have any meaning; why are you making a big deal of it?" Do you have multiple personality disorder?
No. My point is that there is no novel theory created, no novel dataset, or no novel methodology. It’s analyzing cross-tabs from large population surveys. It’s the most reliable research mechanism but it’s not going to be the paper for the ages.
I mean, 1. I need a source for the 80% claim, and 2. they are calling in all the favors around the world and still moving way slower than China in the tech war, which is already peer or above peer with the US in many areas. That's something that they can't change and that's what matters.
1. “Foreign-born workers accounted for 19% of the STEM workforce and 45% of a subset of STEM workers (i.e., mathematical and computer scientists, physical scientists, life scientists, social scientists, and engineers) with doctoral degrees in 2019.” ->
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2. US firms are broadly at the technological frontier using U.S.-born workers (which would be contraindicative of your claim about U.S. children); that China has substantial catch up growth and/or that Chinese students are better doesn’t disprove either.
 

manqiangrexue

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Common inflation measurements should t need to be spelled out on an “Economics Thread”
If you're going by things that "should" and "shouldn't" happen, then people who think that an increase of 168% is less than double shouldn't be posting anything with any mathematical involvement at all. I'm not a trained economist, but I know that American economists bullshit almost as much as their lawyers and politicians.
No. It doesn’t exist. The paper the article was referencing turns on an econometric estimate with more complex techniques than counting on a spreadsheet. It’s not readily available for summary.
No, your bullshit doesn't exist LOL. This entire thing you wrote has no meaning and no answer to the article. WTF does, "complex techniques on a spreadsheet" and "not readily available for summary" even mean? This is a politician's answer to something he cannot answer to.
He addresses many of the same complaints with more graphs lol. It’s also not his fault people can’t read a graph that says “deflated by the PCE”.
First of all, you are "people who can't read a graph." That has been proven many times. Secondly, they are accusing him of dishonesty, saying that graphs he generated do not match the data he says he's drawing from.

Once again, I'm not an economist and I have no desire to reanalyze his data to see what kind of manipulation he did. But I know that this blogger's results conflict entirely with the articles you attempt to brush off by calling them "complex techniques on a spreadsheet" and "not readily available for summary," published in places with far more credibility.
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No. My point is that there is no novel theory created, no novel dataset, or no novel methodology. It’s analyzing cross-tabs from large population surveys. It’s the most reliable research mechanism but it’s not going to be the paper for the ages.
Your point is that everything he says has no particular meaning or relevance. I don't know who the hell bothers to bring something up, then says it has no meaning. You're wasting peoples' time on here.
1. “Foreign-born workers accounted for 19% of the STEM workforce and 45% of a subset of STEM workers (i.e., mathematical and computer scientists, physical scientists, life scientists, social scientists, and engineers) with doctoral degrees in 2019.” ->
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Read your own quote. The actual educated STEM workforce, scientists, engineers with PhDs are 45% foreign born (and the remaining 55% are often of Chinese blood despite being born in the US). That other 19% is nonsense. They encompass those without even a college degree doing construction, installation, etc...

"A little over half of STEM workers do not have a bachelor’s degree and work primarily in health care (19%), construction trades (20%), installation, maintenance, and repair (21%), and production occupations (14%)"

Also, this is 2019 data. The trend is that this number is rising so in 2024, that number could well be half and half already (not accounting for COVID impact).
2. US firms are broadly at the technological frontier
Though slipping every day compared to China,
using U.S.-born workers (which would be contraindicative of your claim about U.S. children);
No, it affirms my claim about American kids. In their own country, American born PhD STEM is only half of ther workforce and that half holds a high percentage of Chinese-origin, what you call Chinese-Americans (a group that has largely escaped the brain rot that is prevalent in mainstream American children).
that China has substantial catch up growth and/or that Chinese students are better doesn’t disprove either.
In some fields; in others China is already ahead. But the important thing is that in all fields, China is moving faster and that is largely because Chinese students are better.
 
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