American Economics Thread

PiSigma

"the engineer"
No, America's horrible. Its tenant protection laws essentially make landlords shoulder the homeless problem. My friend's dad followed the law to the letter so he ended up housing a bum for a year for free before he got the police eviction order because the legal process takes too long and the dude kept appealing. Did you know that in America, if you have a deliquent tenant, not only do you have to pay to keep his/her utilities on, you technically and legally need to keep making repairs to the property to maintain its livability for the deadbeat robbing you?? I'm not going to be victimized like that. To me, it's straightforward. You pay, you have the landlord's approval, you stay. If the landlord rejects your tenancy, you have your 30 days to go. You miss rent, you go immediately. Doesn't matter if you have to be homeless, you can't stay for free in someone's place against their will; it's the same as robbing a supermarket because you're hungry but worse, more like staying in a supermarket and robbing it 24/7 as the owner is forced to look at you and bring you napkins.

If PiSigma and I followed all the laws, we'd be stuck with deadbeats. We're not even legally allowed to only take Chinese/Asian tenants because that's discrimination. But you have to know how to thread the middle line so that you make them too uncomfortable to stay but also not worth it to sue, whether it be because they can't come up with the evidence or that you have charges made up to countersue for that they'd rather not deal with.

I suspect it's the same deal with Canada. If you're goody goody, a defunct and unwieldy legal system will bite you (unwieldy in that it takes months to over a year to evict someone due to the beaurocracy). If you know how to thread, you can make it bite them instead (make it more unappetizing for them to use that defunct system to try to attack you).

I'd split the family rental to single Chinese students or professionals, basically educated people with careers. Turning off utilities is illegal in all cases in the US so can't do that here. If you can in Canada, that's awesome but would they be able to call the utilities companies and pay to turn them on? In any case, you can thread the middle line but never do something clearly illegal with evidence. When I threw that dude's shit out, my defense was 1. he owes me $1,100 so any damages have to be assessed against that, and 2. he had already left the property and declared moveout so it was abandoned junk removal, not an illegal eviction. When I told the other guy I'd play 24 hour psych war against him, I just said it to his face; he's got no proof anything happened.

Financially Responsible People Club, yay!
I can turn utilities on and off as requested because the house and utilities is under my name. Renters have to prove they reside at the address and jump through other hoops before getting utilities at a location. Also, if the utilities is already under someone else's name the original person have to give up the utilities before the new person can take over. So I obviously would never give up utility rights to my rental properties therefore the renters can't take over either. So they can't get new utilities or turn on utilities if I stop it.
 

Biscuits

Major
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Well people were talking about homeless facilities being too shoddy, giving newly constructed highrises to hobos and third hand cars not being appealing so I naturally thought you guys wanted to give more to the poor. Also, Seige was talking about educated high earners becoming homeless in under a year so I could not take it as anything other than a self-responsibility failure.

But I've said at least twice now that I am in support of a stricter US government that imposes heavy punishments for crimes (ie 10 years labor camp for violent robbery) and criminalizes voluntary homelessness (AKA refusal to carry one's own weight by joining the workforce essentially robbing society by forcing others to pay welfare taxes to keep them alive). Drug distributers get the death sentence for corrupting society just like in China, Singapore, Indonesia, etc... This is the tough dad approach, but the problem is that going this route in the US is like suddenly going tough dad on a 28 year old son. Any politician who suggests these things will get Hitler mustaches drawn over all his posters, wouldn't have a chance in hell of winning an election, and just might need 24 hour police protection of his home.

I previously said that America's governance had failed to instill work ethic and the spirit of responsibility in the American people. Now I think it may be a bigger failure than that because the US spent the last few decades actively demonizing Chinese and Russian/Soviet rule by characterizing the US as the country of total freedom where you can let loose, do anything and not do anything you want. In order to make Chinese Dad and Russian Dad look like assholes when they were actually tough dads, American Dad went way overboard painting himself as the coolest dad ever and that resulted in his kids having no sense of responsibility to self or society and lacking the discipline to be contributing citizens. So that's a hole that the US government has been digging for decades and continues to dig for itself. Tough governance is going to be a revolution... one where the government revolts and beats the people into submission. It's just too deep a hole to get out of.
Which government in the last 30 years has imprisoned and killed the most people among those 3, Russia, US and China?

Brutality was never an issue for US. They were always less humane, more violent and far more ready to trample on whole peoples' rights for nothing other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The failure of US to keep a stable economy isn't because of human errors, but systemic. It was the American system of "manifest destiny" which inspired the majority of Hitler and Hirohito's expansionist ideology. Coupled with the fact that US does not condemn nazism, not since ww2 and not today, it is sufficient to consider their ideology as a subgroup of nazism. And nazism simply doesn't work, because this ideology has never emphasized how to build anything, only how to take and destroy.

Was there ever any plan of major living standard expansion in US that didn't rely on theft and stealing? Not the initial settling of the "wild" west. Not the capture of US' today most productive provinces of Califonia from Mexico. Not in the post war era where Europe and Japan were slaved to their designs. Not even their failed attempt to return prosperity home by going to economic war with China.

The only reason US survived far longer and became a much greater threat than it's other nazist contemporaries is that while China and Russia won the war, the idiocy of Khrushchev and the KMT made them lose the peace to America, who was able to subsume the axis into itself.

Because of those vast historical errors, we have taken an immensely long road, but we're now finally getting back to the point where American expansionism is getting its life choked out of it.

The damage to US living standards is the result of that, as their government which only relies on expansionism and aggression becomes boxed in and otherwise forced into unprofitable quagmires. It will only stop when US renounces aggression and reforms away from primitive ideologies.
 

Arij Javaid

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I feel like fed has dug a deep hole now that cutting interest rates will tank the US economy. It will devalue the dollar which will bring up inflation once again and a weakened dollar will once again further increase the trade deficit as well

US dollar might be permanently devalued and the inflation rate will never go back to 2% thanks to unlimited money printing.

The only solution to address this problem was to increase productivity and manufacturing, however that requires an entire new generation trained for it.
 

siegecrossbow

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I feel like fed has dug a deep hole now that cutting interest rates will tank the US economy. It will devalue the dollar which will bring up inflation once again and a weakened dollar will once again further increase the trade deficit as well

US dollar might be permanently devalued and the inflation rate will never go back to 2% thanks to unlimited money printing.

The only solution to address this problem was to increase productivity and manufacturing, however that requires an entire new generation trained for it.

I will gladly volunteer my whole family for assembly line duties when Hunter Biden starts working in one.
 

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US maternal mortality rates for black people has exceeded the maternal mortality of sub-Saharan African countries like Cape Verde.

US maternal mortality rates for even whites is higher than that of Palestine/Gaza.

World bank data for China is out of date, btw. Maternal mortality in China has declined to 15 in 2022, and even the 2020 value is an increase due to COVID and still lower than the OECD average.

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Isn't that Gallium a byproduct of Aluminum processing? Somebody won't get their GaN radar

Boomers before 2023: young people are so entitled. If you want a high paying job just learn coding.

Boomers after 2023: young people are so entitled. If you want a job just go to trade school and get into skilled blue collar work.

Mean while, trade jobs.
 
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