Aircraft Carriers III
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Jura The idiot
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how are you Jeff?
what's the source of those pictures, they sure don't look like coming from the PR department
Jura The idiot
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ATLANTIC OCEAN (July 3, 2018) F/A-18 Super Hornets, assigned to Carrier Air Wing One, and French Dassault Rafale M Fighters fly over the Nimitz class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Harry S. Truman is currently deployed as part of an ongoing rotation of U.S. forces supporting maritime security operations in international waters around the globe. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Rebekah A. Watkins/Released)
ATLANTIC OCEAN (July 3, 2018) A French Dassault Rafale M Fighter touches down on the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Thomas Gooley/Released)
ATLANTIC OCEAN (July 3, 2018) French Naval Inspector General, Vice Adm. Jean-Louis Lozier, right, and Commander, Carrier Strike Group 8, Rear Adm. Gene Black converse in the Commanding Officer's in port cabin aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Victoria Granado/Released)
ATLANTIC OCEAN (July 3, 2018) USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) Commanding Officer, Capt. Nicholas Dienna, left, shows Ambassador Jamie D. McCourt, U.S. Ambassador to the French Republic and Principality of Monaco, Truman's position on a chart on the bridge aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. Harry S. Truman is currently deployed as part of an ongoing rotation of U.S. forces supporting maritime security operations in international waters around the globe. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Victoria Granado/Released)
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Short video of Brazil's new LPH, PHM Atlantico (ex HMS Ocean) in Devonport almost ready to depart for her new home:
Jura The idiot
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New Brazilian Navy video about their new toy; they seem quite proud!
Well, they are proud.
But what does it buy them, really?
Some air assault, and potential amphibious assault.
But they do not have much to protect her.
Are the 30mm cannons the only armament left? What do they have to protect her from any type of anti-shipping missile?
The Ocean was not built to the normal, rigorous military specifs and standards so they may be facing quite bit of maintenance on an increasing basis.
Oh well...in terms of raw power projection it does not replace their carrier...but then their carrier was getting very long on the tooth and they simply could not afford, in the end, to modernize her.
I believe plans to buy a small carrier from France is either on hold or off. Anyone know?
A lot of people are very derogatory about HMS Ocean/PHM Atlantico because of her controversial origin, she was after all built for the same price as a Frigate and a lot of corners were cut to achieve this. A lot of remedial work has been done in the past twenty years of her service life too, so faults reported in her early life really are ancient history. Only four years ago she had a major mid life refit that extended her operational life far beyond the nominal 'twenty years' often quoted.
She gives a renewed focus to the Brazilian Navy after the failure of Sao Paolo, and perhaps they have shifted their expectations to participation in international operations where contributing an LPH/Marines and a few escorts might be more useful than trying to 'double up' on an American Carrier (which they could not hope to do realistically). Long term plans by the Brazilians to build a pair of their own carriers may be helped by this ship, as they keep the aspirations alive for another generation, and they may even be able to build an enlarged variant themselves as the construction was as mentioned kept simple. The hull design is based on the Invincible class simplified from GT power to commercial diesels. QECs are Diesel powered with a couple of GTs added for speed when needed. And they have the type 997 Artisan 3D radar thrown in (probably with a view to further sales for their escorts). She has been sold without the Phalanx guns (we are a bit short of them (the Government is a bit tight on this), but that opens up the opportunity to fit their own choice of CIWS or even SAM (SEA RAM?). We shall see...
She gives a renewed focus to the Brazilian Navy after the failure of Sao Paolo, and perhaps they have shifted their expectations to participation in international operations where contributing an LPH/Marines and a few escorts might be more useful than trying to 'double up' on an American Carrier (which they could not hope to do realistically). Long term plans by the Brazilians to build a pair of their own carriers may be helped by this ship, as they keep the aspirations alive for another generation, and they may even be able to build an enlarged variant themselves as the construction was as mentioned kept simple. The hull design is based on the Invincible class simplified from GT power to commercial diesels. QECs are Diesel powered with a couple of GTs added for speed when needed. And they have the type 997 Artisan 3D radar thrown in (probably with a view to further sales for their escorts). She has been sold without the Phalanx guns (we are a bit short of them (the Government is a bit tight on this), but that opens up the opportunity to fit their own choice of CIWS or even SAM (SEA RAM?). We shall see...
asif iqbal
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To be fair it looks still good
Should serve many years in Brazil
Should serve many years in Brazil