Aircraft Carriers III

Intrepid said:

And they have only one type of aircraft ready to operate from this carrier.

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a but not yet approved.

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Jeff Head said:

YEs, and that is the F/A-18E/F...which will make up a majority of the air wing to begin with.

Ultimately they will carry:
F/A-18E Air Superiority Fighter
F/A-18F Strile Fighter
F-35C Strike Fighter
E-2C/D AEW
MVC-22 COD
SH-60 Helos

...and they will test each one through the EMALS on ground and then on the carrier before final approval.

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Jura said:

I don't care about "fully functional" because that's just words; I care about the first deployment, and what's funny to me I predicted 2022
Jul 26, 2016
while I had been unaware of the official, which is LOL 2022:
"... first deployment, which is slated for 2022, according to Navy documents reviewed by Navy Times ...":
Navy accepted the carrier Ford into the fleet, with commissioning set for this summer
June 1, 2017

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Jura said:

... Jim Mattis’ ‘Dynamic Force Employment’ just got real for the US Navy

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Jura said:

would you please translate from the Pentagonese

"The National Defense Strategy directs us to be operationally unpredictable while remaining strategically predictable. As such, select units from the USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) Carrier Strike Group (CSG) will return to Norfolk, Virginia, this week - a direct reflection of the dynamic force employment concept and the inherent maneuverability and flexibility of the U.S. Navy."

etc.; it's
Press Statement on Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group Operations

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Story Number: NNS180716-23Release Date: 7/16/2018 6:00:00 PM

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US Navy aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman and ships from its carrier strike group are returning home just three months after starting a deployment to the US 6th Fleet.

US Navy aircraft carriers usually deploy for a period of seven months. However, Truman’s deployment was not cut short by a technical defect or some other unforeseen development.

Instead, select Harry S. Truman carrier strike group units are returning home under the new dynamic force employment concept which will allows the US Navy to be operationally unpredictable while remaining strategically predictable.

“Let me be clear – all returning units are 100 percent mission capable and will remain in the sustainment phase of the Optimized Fleet Response Plan, which means they will sustain warfighting readiness and be ready to surge forward or redeploy when called upon,” said Adm. Christopher Grady, commander, US Fleet Forces Command.

Adm Grady noted that the Truman CSG had had a successful three months in the US 6th Fleet area of responsibility. The ship accomplished every objective established for its crew, from striking ISIS in Syria to working with allies in the Mediterranean and the Atlantic.

“As with any in-port period, routine maintenance will be conducted on ships, aircraft and equipment, and sailors will take the opportunity to continue advanced training, maintain warfighting certifications, as well as spend time with their families,” the admiral said.

As outlined in the US National Defense Strategy, the dynamic force employment concept will prioritize maintaining the capacity and capabilities for major combat, while providing options for proactive and scalable employment of the joint force.

The dynamic force employment concept will change the way the US uses its assets to introduce unpredictability to adversaries.

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bd popeye said:

Perhaps the SECDEF wants the USN to be more flexible.

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bd popeye said:

Sey what??? ...

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Intrepid said:

... or no money for fuel of the aircraft and bunker oil of the escorts.

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Jura said:

"The Navy’s maintenance cycles have been disrupted badly in recent years as increasing demands and declining force structure pushed the Navy to the brink with deployments extending as long as 10 months or more."

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Air Force Brat said:

Hell, we are only 20 TRILLION in debt thanks to Barack Hussein Obama, I mean not to blame him entirely, because ONLY 14 TRILLION of that occurred on the "Obama Phone" tour???, he did inherit about a 6 Trillion dollar debt and he only nearly quadrupled that debt,,, so don't blame him??

anyway, he purposely castrated the US military, (they DID NOT LIKE HIM AT ALL), and now the Trumpster is putting things back in order, its gonna take time, and doing things in a more manageable fashion....

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

Near term it's just a matter of Time. And that is one of the main reasons for Multirole fighters. They are Jacks of All trades to be sure but for a Aircraft carrier with limited on board capacity that is a major advantage.


First Jeff, I would hardly call the F/A18C/D an Air Superiority Fighter, The Last Navy Air Superiority Fighter I would argue was the F14D. All Hornets are Multirole machines.
Second, I think honestly the Time on Deck with Legacy Hornets is Over...

First the F/A18E/F are rising in numbers and have better mission readiness rates they are also more capable With a longer future service life potential.

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Second with the F35C coming online The Navy will likley off load more and more of the mission set from Legecy Hornets to Lightnings.

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On these two the Navy has already shown that trend

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And the Navy is not deploying Legacy hornets on Carrier decks any more

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Finally the Marines are Struggling to maintain there Legacy capacities well procuring and integrating F35B. With the Retirement of a number of older Aircraft types from ground attack the Marines fast movers are down to New F35Bs, Wearing out F/A18C/D whoch make up the Bulk of there Fleet, Aging and troubled AV8B+ and 15 EA6 Prowlers that are all but Retired at this point. With the limited numbers of F35B's and there not quite ready for Prime time status, The Legecy Hornet is more critical for the Marines then the Navy who have the Rhino Hornets.

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Basically The only Legecy Hornets still in the Navy are Air Demos in the Blue angels or Adversary types for training. Because of the Super Bugs the Navy can and basically has transitioned out of the Legacy bugs well retaining capacity. The Marines however didn't buy the Super Bug and for fair reasoning they didn't want to spend the money on a new carrier deck bird when they are more Short field or Short deck they also knew that they could "Borrow" retiring Legacy bugs off the navy as gap fillers till the Lightning was ready to go.

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