Aircraft Carriers III

bd popeye

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accidentally found, thought you might like this view:
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This photo was taken in May 1990 during Nimitz sea trials after a minor re-fit at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton WA.

This is a link to the 1990-91 cruise book of Nimitz detailing the sea trials.

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John2001

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New information about the Russian Naval Avation :
The Admiral Kuznetsov will go to Mediterranean Sea, carrying new fighters.
"The aircraft carrier will have on board a mixed group of deck jets Sukhoi Su-33, Su-25UTG and Mikoyan MiG-29K."

First post here, after being a member for almost 10 years now, and following other forums and reading books about Naval Avation and Navies many years before.

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Admiral Kuznetsov - Marina Lystseva:TASS, archive from Tass.ru.jpg
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very interesting:
John F. Kennedy’s arresting gear system completes first aircraft arrestment

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related:
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F/A-18E Super Hornet lands with the Advanced Arresting Gear at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, in Lakehurst, New Jersey, on March 31, 2016. US Navy Photo
Super Hornet Catches Wire on Advanced Arresting Gear in First Manned Aircraft Test
The Navy’s next generation of landing system for its Gerald Ford-class aircraft carrier successfully trapped its first aircraft last week.

A Boeing F/A-18E was arrested by a test General Atomics Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) installed at a test facility at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, in Lakehurst, N.J.

The landing of the Super Hornet marks the start of manned aircraft tests for the system that was also installed in parallel on Gerald R. Ford (CVN-76) — currently finishing construction.

The facility in New Jersey had arrested simulated dead loads and jet cars ahead of the first manned arrested landing with the Super Hornet from Naval Strike Aircraft Test Squadron 23 (VX-23) on March 31, according to a General Atomics statement.
“More than 1,200 successful dead load arrestments have been completed at the Jet Car Test Site in Lakehurst, New Jersey,” stated Dean Key with General Atomics said in the statement.
“Now, with the arrestment of aircraft, we take an important step in verifying the dynamic controls and system performance as a whole.”

The AAG underwent an extensive redesign in 2013 that delayed the testing schedule by two years, Navy officials disclosed in 2015.

“We are about two years behind where we should be up at Lakehurst in terms of having the systems installed and testing it with real aircraft,”
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“I have to get equipment installed… and concurrently with that I have to get Lakehurst to start testing the upgraded system.”

In October, the Naval Air Systems Command said that after the redesign of the AAG, the service said it will only have to deal with software fixes on the Ford and no major other hardware improvements.

“We feel confident we can deliver hardware to the ship without having to go back and redesign or remove and replace anything we’ve delivered to the ship,” Rear Adm. Donald Gaddis, Program Executive Officer for Tactical Aircraft
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The tests will inform a series of recovery bulletins for the aircraft that will operate on the Ford-class.

“The plan right now is to do these recovery bulletins in incremental steps,” he said.
“We’ll start with the Super Hornet E/F, then we’ll go to the F-18C and then we’ll go to the E2 [Hawkeye] and C-2 [Greyhound]. And our plan is to do all those type/model/series and get all those recovery bulletins done before we hand it over to [the director of operational test and evaluation.”

The following is the complete April 1, 2016 release from General Atomics.
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bd popeye

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04.02.2016...According to the Russian Armed Forces General Staff current plan, the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier will deploy into the Mediterranean in October 2016 and will assume the duties of the flagship of the Russian Navy fleet in the region. Su-33 aircraft and MiG -29K & Su-25UTG will be the carrier-based aircraft.

Currently, Kuznetsov is still located in Murmansk under going a re-fit.

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asif iqbal

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That carrier looks tired really tired

That shipyard looks like a mess too but I think that is just the way Russians just "make do" with what they have and get things done

That carrier probably needs to be gutted and completely rebuilt probably cheaper to just build a new one which is probably beyond the scope of the Russian shipbuilding

Hence the current over haul

Wait will the brand new double island Queen Elizabeth carriers hit the sea with F35B VTOL it will bring a new age to carriers in Europe, bringing a RN carrier strike group to the table will have heads turning
 

FORBIN

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She get 25 years they have plans to use or 2030 replaced by a new maybe more big.

Wait will the brand new double island Queen Elizabeth carriers hit the sea with F35B VTOL it will bring a new age to carriers in Europe, bringing a RN carrier strike group to the table will have heads turning
CV back in the RN good and with 2 always one ready but can operated only STVOL fighters less big range ( decent ) and internal payload.
 

Obi Wan Russell

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The range issue between the F-35B and C is I feel somewhat exaggerated for two reasons: firstly those who bring it up are disingenuously ignoring inflight refuelling. Both variants are capable of this and very few military combat sorties are flown these days without topping up from a tanker (be it carrier or land based), so once IFR enters the equation the range issue becomes irrelevant.

Secondly the greater range, or more correctly the greater fuel capacity of the C model is operationally negated to a fair degree by the differences in landing operations back at the carrier. A CTOL aircraft has to retain enough fuel on board for potentially several landing attempts in case it 'Bolts' (i.e. misses the wires), typically up to five or six tries, after which the aircraft would be sent to rendezvous with an orbiting tanker aircraft to either try again or divert to a land airfield. STOVL aircraft don't need a fuel reserve of anywhere near this magnitude because as a rule of thumb when they return to 'mother' they land on first time every time. Indeed a large fuel reserve would be detrimental in a vertical landing as it is extra weight that has to be supported by extra thrust from the engine in a VL hence extra fuel consumption... as you can see the lighter you are when you return to the ship the better.
 

asif iqbal

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Also if V22 can top up the F35B the situation becomes more easy

A VARS V22 has already done the trials in the F35 last summer so it's become a reality

What RN could do with is a AWACS V22 that could further and faster than the current RN helicopters
 
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