TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Her cats will be EMALS. Unless the Navy starts ripping her open to lay steam pipes. Besides The President hasn’t made an official order.
Aircraft Carriers III
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Jura The idiot
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Navy Building a Land-Based Test Site for Ford-Class Weapons Elevators, But Timing Won’t Help CVN-78
they don't say who pays for that facility, and how much
Sep 7, 2018
Navy Building a Land-Based Test Site for Ford-Class Weapons Elevators, But Timing Won’t Help CVN-78
they don't say who pays for that facility, and how much
Sep 7, 2018
Brumby
Major
I agree with your assessment. It will be cheaper to scrap the whole carrier if the plan is to reconfigure to steam. The die is cast. I remember reading recently that with shipbuilding any redesign while building is a very costly proposition because everything is inter-connected.
Having seen the way Trump operates in the past 2 1/2 years, when he brings up the same issue it means he expects result or else he will step in. The problem with the USN in the past 10-15 years, there had been too many problematic projects like Ford, Zumwalt and the LCS. The leadership is rich in spin and low on corrective delivery. To-date I have yet to see a plan as to whether they can solve a number of issues like :
(1) Electrically isolating the system without having to power down the whole EMAL system;
(2) IIRC, it takes 24 hours just to power down; and
(3) The miserable MTBF (about 500 IIRC) for launches. .
There is no way the Ford is deployable under such conditions. They might as well scrap the carrier. . .
Jura The idiot
General
LOL! "step in" huh, here's the reality of the LCS game-changers:
Jun 30, 2017
the context is
"In a startling turnabout, the Trump Administration now “supports” adding a $541 million to yesterday’s , Navy officials told Congress this afternoon. What, exactly, does that mean? The Navy doesn’t know." etc. inside the article linked
May 25, 2017
Brumby
Major
Probably best to move this to the LCS thread as this is a carrier thread.
Jura The idiot
General
4 minutes ago
just gave an example of "stepping in"
actually there's
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Jun 30, 2017
Brumby
Major
I am not going to dive in on the politics and the horse trading relating to the budgetary process on how money is being moved around. I am just merely pointing out that with Trump, there is no sacred cow. If he has eyes on the carrier problem, it is best to sort out the issues before he issues an executive order.
I have watched him for years complaining about the China trade issues on Fox news. The takeaway lesson is there is no entity too big that he won't decouple..
Jura The idiot
General
dated 30 May 2019: France enhances high-tempo interoperability in Asia with carrier group exercises
after they had been without a carrier for almost two years recently I mean what they need is a second porte-avions LOL the text anyway (331 of 654 words):
after they had been without a carrier for almost two years recently I mean what they need is a second porte-avions LOL the text anyway (331 of 654 words):
At two years before commission, which will occur in late 2020 or early 2021, the John F. Kennedy, the 2nd Ford Class crrier, looks like this:
I do not believe anyone can show a pic of CV-18 anywhere close to this stage of construction.
JFK was 65% complete structurally two years before launch, and as you see two years before commissioning.
Launch: Late 2019-early 2020
Commission: Late 2020 to early 2021
Anyhow, my expectation from what I have heard (because we have not seen much to date, whereas for CV-16 and CV-17 we saw quite a bit at this stage of construction), is that she is likely 3-4 years away from launch and 4-5 years away fro commission...perhaps longer because they will have to integrate the entire catapult launch at sea into her trials.
Time will tell.
I do not believe anyone can show a pic of CV-18 anywhere close to this stage of construction.
JFK was 65% complete structurally two years before launch, and as you see two years before commissioning.
Launch: Late 2019-early 2020
Commission: Late 2020 to early 2021
Anyhow, my expectation from what I have heard (because we have not seen much to date, whereas for CV-16 and CV-17 we saw quite a bit at this stage of construction), is that she is likely 3-4 years away from launch and 4-5 years away fro commission...perhaps longer because they will have to integrate the entire catapult launch at sea into her trials.
Time will tell.
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