Aircraft Carriers III

bd popeye said:

Obi Wan. Can you leave a link where you found that tentative schedule for the RN carriers? Thanks!

Looks like the ship will return to the USA this fall. I'm looking forward to that.

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Well it was made by a friend of mine on FB who is also always being asked for details like this, so this encapsulates all available details in an easy to read form. I was going to do the same but he beat me to it!

Thanks Obi Wan.. I tried to upload that graph on imgur.com , the photo hosting site I use, and it would not upload. Nor would it download to my computer. I want to post it in other forums.

edit! Eureka! The picture uploaded! You will be seeing this now at skyscrapercity.

Obi Wan...I copied it this morning it is now posted; ...

Yesterday at 10:13 PM

Jura said:

thought I might 'retweet'

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FS Charles de Gaulle

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in the Mediterranean escorted by formidable air defence assets: HMS Duncan FS Forbin HDMS Niels Juel USS Ross Group has now split and French vessels will deploy East of Suez for Mission

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USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74), FS Charles de Gaulle (F 91), USS McFaul (DDG 74), USS Mobile Bay (CG 53), HDMS Niels Juel (F 363) and FS Forbin (D 620) in formation in the Red Sea, April 15, 2019. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Joshua L. Leonard)

Great port! I've been there 10 times with JFK & America. Great port visit for shipmates on deployment for the first time as 60% of CVN-72 are.

MEDITERRANEAN SEA (April 15, 2019) The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) anchors off the coast of Palma de Mallorca, Spain, April 15, 2019. Abraham Lincoln is deployed as part of the Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group in support of maritime security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th, U.S. 6th and U.S. 7th Fleet areas of operation. With Abraham Lincoln as the flagship, deployed strike group assets include staffs, ships and aircraft of Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 12, Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 2, the guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf (CG 55) and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 7; as well as the Spanish navy Alvaro de Bazan-class frigate ESPS Mendez Nuñez (F 104). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Amber Smalley/Released)



RED SEA (April 15, 2019) The French Marine Nationale aircraft carrier FS Charles De Gaulle (R91), top, and the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) are underway in formation in the Red Sea, April 15, 2019. The John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group is deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations in support of naval operations to ensure maritime stability and security in the Central Region, connecting the Mediterranean and the Pacific through the western Indian Ocean and three strategic choke points. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Joshua L. Leonard/Released)

A few bits and pieces doing the rounds at the moment, Apparently BAe is offering the CVF-CTOL variant to India as a serious contender for 'INS VISHAL', the second indigenously built Indian Navy aircraft carrier (and most definitely NOT HMS Prince of Wales):

Not the first time this story has done the rounds but it refuses to go away...

Nostalgia time now: Back in 84 Ark Royal (V) was in the final stages of fitting out at Swan Hunters shipyard on Tyneside and as at the time I lived about twenty miles away stories about her cropped up regularly on the local news. Also at the time every publication on the subject listed her pennant number as R09, the same as the previous Ark Royal. The RN had already moved to the current system of allocating pennant numbers consecutively within a given range for the type of ship, so Ark Royal eventually commissioned with the next available number, R07. It seems nobody bothered to tell San Hunters about this and they assumed like everyone else it would be R09 and actually painted it on the island:

845NAS HONES ITS ROLES INCLUDING JPR DURING JOINT WARRIOR 1/19

845NAS has already been involved helping develop QE class capabilites during 2018 including its "Furious" Flight of 4 aircraft deploying aboard HMS QE during Westlant18 to the USA.
In addition to its broader Royal Marines (RM) Commando assault support role, the new Merlin HC Mk4 has several other key roles when based aboard a QE carrier, including that of Joint Personnel Recovery (JPR) - or CSAR as its often called in other organisations and countries. The Sqn's aircraft and a party of RM are used (in coordination with other air surveillance and escort/attack assets) in direct recovery of any UK personnel from trapped situations near or behind enemy lines. While one mission focus might be recovery of an F35 pilot, and also the destruction of downed UK F35s or Helicopters to prevent enemy access, they may also be used to recover other aircrew, RM or UK personnel in need of such action.
Regular exercising of such coordinated team work is essential to maximise success.

Obi Wan Russell said:

A few bits and pieces doing the rounds at the moment, Apparently BAe is offering the CVF-CTOL variant to India as a serious contender for 'INS VISHAL', the second indigenously built Indian Navy aircraft carrier (and most definitely NOT HMS Prince of Wales):

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I posted it in the Indian news thread.
Since the most likely birds that would fly of a assisted launch CVF for India would be Rafaels. It would be like the Indians got PA02.
The CVF is the most modern proven conventional powered carrier on the market. The most rational choice. Adding EMALS would make her a real impressive machine. A force of Rafaels and if the Indians bought E2D that would make her the real deal.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

I posted it in the Indian news thread.
Since the most likely birds that would fly of a assisted launch CVF for India would be Rafaels. It would be like the Indians got PA02.
The CVF is the most modern proven conventional powered carrier on the market. The most rational choice. Adding EMALS would make her a real impressive machine. A force of Rafaels and if the Indians bought E2D that would make her the real deal.

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Isn't this the original design the British themselves wanted until they cut corners to save money by removing the cats and then changed their mind but it was too late in the process?

CVF was designed in three concepts. The Jump carrier she became.
A Cat assisted launch arrested landing carrier and a Russian style arrested landing only version.
The choice on form was to be based on what aircraft the British got.
If they didn't like F35B they could buy French Rafael or F35C. If they couldn't get those they in theory could modify Eurofighter to take off Russian style.
If Of course the fact is the moment the F35 program started the US have the British a chair at the table and let them help design the requirements. Especially for F35B. The Marines and RN basically tailored F35B to their wants given that CATBAR wasn't really serious.