Aircraft Carriers III

not sure how

Today at 8:17 PM
In a military alliance it is not a problem if every state has only one carrier. The shipyard stays must be planned just as if the alliance is only one state, but with many carriers.
and

52 minutes ago
Europe is waiting for the time after Trump. And then it has to be decided whether the US is still a reliable partner.

But many other questions arise, the world is in transition.
add up, but what ever
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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not sure how

Today at 8:17 PM

and

52 minutes ago

add up, but what ever

We live in an ever changing world, Aircraft Carriers are one of the keys to moving airpower where its needed now, long range tanking and forward basing are the other more complex options...

So if France for instance, decides to "play footsie" with Putin, that hurts the security of Europe as a whole, remember France cancelled the sale of those Mistral's to Russia after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but they were under a great deal of pressure... so France has a history of favorable relations with Russia??

Had Mr. Trump been President during the Ukrainian invasion, the US would have mobilized and had air assets in theatre,,, he would have made it clear that any further intrusion would be met with whatever force necessary to stop that intrusion...

So Europe is honestly much safer today, than it was two years ago, or four years ago, or six years ago. Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups continue to ensure the security of our allies, and no matter the personal feelings, we must hang together, or as Ben Franklin famously stated: or we will all hang separately!

US, UK, Spain, Italian and French aircraft carriers will remain a central piece of that equation..
 

Intrepid

Major
There was a chance 20 years ago to rehabilitate Russia. We missed her. Europe has to emancipate itself. But now I've discussed enough world politics in this forum, I'm calm again.
 
careful about Spain here:
US, UK, Spain, Italian and French aircraft carriers will remain a central piece of that equation..
Aircraft Carriers III Sep 8, 2017
Spanish aircraft carrier SPS Principe De Asturias sold to Turkish company
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as the source it quotes a Turkish article
İSPANYOL UÇAK GEMİSİ ALİAĞA’DA
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dated
6 Eylül 2017
which is September 6, I now checked

Spain, country which "played it strong" instead of looking at its ballooning deficit, unemployment rate, ... by the way I recalled pictures of "operating" that carrier:
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more are inside the first link I posted Oct 4, 2016
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
There was a chance 20 years ago to rehabilitate Russia. We missed her. Europe has to emancipate itself. But now I've discussed enough world politics in this forum, I'm calm again.

Agreed, and Mr. Trump is restoring America to her more traditional moorings, he's getting Govt out of as much of our business as is possible,, those whom continue to attack Mr. Trump, Hillary, Barack, Mr. Mueller, Inspector Comey, Mr. Brennan, and the Rod Rosenstein's to name a few are the reason America as we know it was dying!

I don't appreciate his lack of manners and diplomacy, but I'm certain that he respects and intends to defend and restore America to her former principles, and that ultimately is a good thing for the whole world...

Bringing those carriers back up to full force, and getting our military back on track, rebuilding the horribly broken readiness and morale, those carriers are in many ways symbolic of our whole system..
 

Intrepid

Major
Hi @Air Force Brat, you live in the US and I have to live with the consequences if the US has intervened anywhere. This results in completely different views on things.

Let's not discuss politics, we will not have the same opinion.
 
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