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air wing joined with US
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's Carrier Air Wing 8 in overflying USS GEORGE H W
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yesterday off US east coast after several days of flying operations. France's only carrier is in extended refit.
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Awesome, I love cross decking!
 

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pardon me, what scandal?

When the twitter Defense Posters realize that the initial trials of the F-35B on the QE are mostly American birds from the East Coast Test fleet, not English Birds which are stationed out West..... they will have a twitterpation! LOL

The UK birds are all in the West Coast test fleet, and the QE is going to be tested off the East Coast.
 

Obi Wan Russell

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When the twitter Defense Posters realize that the initial trials of the F-35B on the QE are mostly American birds from the East Coast Test fleet, not English Birds which are stationed out West..... they will have a twitterpation! LOL

The UK birds are all in the West Coast test fleet, and the QE is going to be tested off the East Coast.
We could always give them a quick temporary paint job... after all it's just about swapping the 'stars and bars' for a roundel. Even some 'stick on' ones would do the job, and we could have them in colour too!F-35B_Royal_Navy_2.jpg
 
When the twitter Defense Posters realize that the initial trials of the F-35B on the QE are mostly American birds from the East Coast Test fleet, not English Birds which are stationed out West..... they will have a twitterpation! LOL

The UK birds are all in the West Coast test fleet, and the QE is going to be tested off the East Coast.
I guess somehow related is UK F-35 pilots get in gear to bring the joint strike fighter to Britain
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At a U.S. Marine Corps base in South Carolina, newly minted F-35 pilots from the Royal Air Force are
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for a
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that will finally bring the joint strike fighter permanently to the United Kingdom.

But the work won’t stop once the first four jets from 617 Squadron arrive at RAF Marham in early June, or even when another five F-35Bs transfer to the base by the end of the summer. RAF pilots and maintainers will have to hustle to hit a key milestone — initial operational capability — by the end of the year.

The good news is that they will have a head start. The June flight from Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort to Marham is set to happen anytime between June 5 and June 10, weather permitting.

That’s a full two months ahead of schedule, said Wing Cmdr. Scott “Mox” Williams, the U.K.’s senior national representative at Beaufort. Williams has been tapped to lead 207 Squadron, another F-35B squadron, when it reconstitutes in 2019.

“Our base [at Marham]
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. So we are at a point now where we believe we can do that,” he told Defense News during a May 17 visit to Beaufort. “And the final thing... that is really driving it all, is that it gives us more time in the U.K. to do that build up to IOC.”

About 120 RAF personnel and 11 of the U.K.’s F-35Bs are currently stationed at MCAS Beaufort for joint strike fighter training. There, both RAF and U.S. Marine Corps pilots learn from the same curriculum, share jets and fly together on a daily basis.

“We train at a very basic F-35 level that’s common across the two services,” Williams said, adding that the only real difference is that U.S. and U.K. pilots will sometimes go to different briefings.

About 40 of the original 160 RAF personnel stationed at Beaufort — including the pilots who will be making the transatlantic flight next month — have already returned to the United Kingdom to get ready for the build up to IOC at Marham.

The pilots will return to Beaufort in late May to refresh their skills on the simulator and do currency flights, Williams said. Finally, the first four F-35Bs will make their flight across the pond, accompanied by an Airbus A330 tanker that will continuously refuel the aircraft.

For both U.S. and international acquisition programs, the milestone of initial operational capability varies depending on that particular country’s requirements.

Williams declined to say how the RAF has defined IOC, but said it involves having a certain number of planes ready to conduct day or night missions in the areas of air interdiction, close air support, suppression of enemy air defenses, defensive counter air and offensive counter air.

During the build-up to IOC, F-35 pilots will fly missions in the full mission simulator as well as in live flights in local training areas. They will also gain experience in working with other U.K. fighter aircraft such as the Eurofighter Typhoon and Panavia Tornado.

But perhaps most importantly, the U.K. pilots will finally have a chance to learn and practice all of the all of tactics unique to the RAF, which will exclusively be taught at Marham ahead of IOC. That makes those extra two months at home station even more important, Williams said.

“Having that six months is great to kind of ramp up the U.K. tactics rather than if you were to wait and do it all in July,” he said. “That would only give us four months to do that workup, which is tight.”

The United Kingdom has committed to buying 48 F-35s, although it has said it will eventually order 138 joint strike fighters.

It will field its F-35B inventory aboard its
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, with the first sea-trial aboard the Queen Elizabeth slated for later this year. Those flights will be piloted by RAF test pilots based either at Eglin Air Force Base or Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Williams said.

Britain’s carrier fleet ceased to exist in 2011 as the country retired its Harriers. However, Williams said that experience with other short-takeoff-and-vertical-landing aircraft can at times be a hindrance to pilots learning the F-35 — something the RAF has termed “Harrier baggage.”

“I speak with experience, because I flew Harriers from the U.K. carriers on a number of occasions. A lot of that institutional knowledge is specific to the Harrier, the Harrier’s handling, the Harrier’s performance capabilities and the actual carrier itself,” he said.

“Nobody can treat this airplane like a Harrier replacement. If you do that, you potentially are only going to unlock a very small proportion of its full capabilities.”
 
May 10, 2018
... so I wonder if 'mainstream' outlets like NavyTimes, USNI News, BreakingDefense etc. will say anything (I looked now, didn't see anything)
and NavyTimes said this today:
Why the Navy’s newest aircraft carrier was forced back into port
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Yet another propulsion train problem has forced the Navy’s newest aircraft carrier, the Gerald R. Ford, back into port for “adjustments” before it can get back underway to complete what had been expected to be a long testing period.

“The ship experienced a propulsion system issue associated with a recent design change, requiring a return to homeport for adjustments before resuming at sea testing,” said Colleen O’Rourke, spokeswoman for Naval Sea Systems Command in Washington.

The ship left Norfolk early May 19 for what sources tell Navy Times was to be an extended period underway, slated to be the ship’s last sea time before entering its scheduled post-shakedown availability maintenance period at Huntington Ingalls Newport News shipyard this summer.

That yard period, known as a PSA, is expected to fix a laundry list of issues that have popped up in the past year onboard the first new carrier design the U.S. has fielded in 40 years.

Navy officials don’t know how long the current needed adjustments will take that caused the ship to abort its underway period. For security reasons, the Navy doesn’t normally discuss ship’s schedules, but the anticipation is that the ship will return to sea soon to resume testing.

“Ford has been tasked with conducting critical test and evaluation operations that identify construction and design issues,” O’Rourke said “As a continuation of that testing and evaluation process, Ford got underway to conduct an independent steaming event that would allow the ship and its crew to continue testing its systems and procedures.”

Navy officials say the issue isn’t with either of the ship’s two reactors.

Rather, the issues reside in the mechanical components associated in turning steam created by the nuclear plant into spinning screws that power the ship through the water. These include steam turbines, reduction gear, shafts and screws.

Details on exactly what in that drivetrain was redesigned and needs adjustment has not been released, though officials did say that this latest issue is unrelated to another propulsion-related issue that popped up earlier this year.

“During at-sea testing in January, the crew identified one component in the propulsion train was operating outside of design specifications and took action to place the propulsion train in a safe condition,” Bill Couch spokesman for Naval Sea System told Navy Times. “This was the second issue identified in the propulsion train in the last year.”

A detailed inspection found that component, which
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have described as a flawed bearing, was not built to design specifications.

“The Navy and Newport News Shipbuilding have determined the required steps to correct the manufacturing defect,” Couch said. “The defects will be fully corrected during PSA.”

The Navy and Newport News Shipbuilding, he said, are evaluating the case for a possible claim against the manufacturer.

“As a first-in-class ship, this is not unexpected,” O’Rourke said. “Some of the ship’s components are most effectively tested while the ship is underway during typical steaming conditions. Events like this prove that the testing and evaluation process works. Corrections will be made to USS Gerald R. Ford, and integrated into the next ships in the Ford carrier class.”

However, recent government reports question the long-term reliability of the new electromagnetic catapults and advanced arresting gear, as well as the ship’s weapons elevators, again called into question as to whether all the new technology is ready for prime time ― or at least a wartime deployment.

This latest knock on the Ford came in a January 2018 report from the Department of Defense’s director of operational test and evaluation, which also called into question the long-term reliability of a number of other key systems onboard the Ford.

A senior Navy official familiar with the Ford’s design and growing pains acknowledged that the difficulties are real, but that the Navy had similar issues with new technologies on other first-in-class vessels, such as the guided-missile destroyer Arliegh Burke, and the amphibious transport dock San Antonio.

The official, who has worked on the Ford’s development, requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak officially on these topics.

Both the Burke class and the San Antonio class ships, he said, brought new designs and technology, much of which took time to work out once the ships started to operate at sea.

“The record shows that the Burke and the San Antonio had similar issues and got less than passing grades from DTO&E and other inspections at the time,” the source said. “But somehow the issues have all been worked out over time and these ships and their classes have proven their reliability over time. The feeling in the Navy is that the Ford class will follow a similar path.”

Long-term effectiveness of the Burke class hasn’t been questioned in years, the Navy official said, and the San Antonio class ― after a lot of post delivery issues ― had developed into a darling of the Marine Corps. And Congress may now fund the building of yet another.

“Ford has proven out a lot of new systems and has the lowest number of deficiencies compared to the most recent new aircraft carrier,” O’Rourke said. That most recent new carrier is the George H.W. Bush.

Since being commissioned in July, NAVSEA’s Couch outlined some of Ford’s successes after spending “nearly 70 days at sea through six independent steaming events.

To date, he said, the ship has completed 747 shipboard aircraft launches and recoveries and has successfully completed fixed-wing aircraft and helicopter integration and compatibility testing.

Already certified are the air traffic control center and JP-5 fuel system. Other systems have completed initial demonstrations with out major issues such as daytime underway replenishment capability and ship’s defensive systems.

Also, software fixes are slated to fix issues with the electromagnetic aircraft launch system already in the works to significantly reduce excessive stress put on airframes in the original EMAL’s operating software that will be fixed in a 2019 upgrade.

“Events like this prove that the testing and evaluation process works,” O’Rourke said. “Corrections will be made to USS Gerald R. Ford, and integrated into the next ships in the Ford carrier class.”
 

bd popeye

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There's so much to sate about what Jura has posted..but I will not...However the post shakedown PSA is normal for a new ship.

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 14, 2018) U.S. and French navy aircraft fly over the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77). The ship is underway in the Atlantic Ocean conducting carrier air wing exercises with the French navy to strengthen partnerships and deepen interoperability between the two nations' naval forces. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Ryan Pitt)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 14, 2018) A French sailor directs a Rafale Marine attached to squadron 17F of the French navy as it prepares to launch off the flight deck aboard the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class David Mora Jr.)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 16, 2018) A Rafale Marine attached to squadron 17F of the French navy launches off the flight deck aboard the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Zachary P. Wickline)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 16, 2018) A Rafale Marine attached to squadron 17F of the French navy launches off the flight deck aboard the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Zachary P. Wickline)

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ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 16, 2018) A Rafale Marine attached to squadron 17F of the French navy launches off the flight deck aboard the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Zachary P. Wickline)

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