Aircraft Carriers III

Thursday at 5:24 PM
that's something: no AShMs in the near future, no fixed-winged aircraft yet, but
Britain's new aircraft carriers to test Beijing in South China Sea

27 July 2017
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“One of the first things we will do with the two new colossal aircraft carriers that we have just built is send them on a freedom of navigation operation to this area,” Johnson said in Sydney on Thursday, “to vindicate our belief in the rules-based international system and in the freedom of navigation through those waterways which are absolutely vital for world trade.”


does he know that the Royal BRUNEI Navy has AShMs?!
(I know that, because I watched their Exocets being test-fired during the SINKEX at 2014 RIMPAC)
LOL now some fanboi on a warpath:
"While it is true that China’s navy could practically cause considerable damage to our carriers, the likelihood is they won’t."
What threats could the Queen Elizabeth class carriers realistically face?
July 28, 2017
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asif iqbal

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A childish article of no value

It talks about North Korean anti ship missiles being too old, well ask the sailors of ROKS Cheonan old doesn't mean ineffective

Then to say QE has a CIWS ? As if to say it's some miracle weapon specific to QE, Big deal even light frigates have those

The articles is not even worth reading
 
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Thursday at 5:24 PM

LOL now some fanboi on a warpath:
"While it is true that China’s navy could practically cause considerable damage to our carriers, the likelihood is they won’t."
What threats could the Queen Elizabeth class carriers realistically face?
July 28, 2017
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The QE carriers will face the same threats all carriers face.

ASMs of all varieties, fired from ships and sub...including supersonic, ski-skimming.

Aircraft loaded with ASMs and all types of guided and even unguided munitions.

Torpedoes fired from lurking submarines...SSKs and SSNs.

In order to protect against these variities of threats, the RN carriers MUST have very good escorts. Four very good surface ships with anti-air and ASW capabilities (that far surpasses the carriers own weaponry, in peace time...just in case, and at least one SSN.

Then more of them in high threat or likely war scenarios.

In addition, as a last ditch, home plate defense, the carriers themselves should have their own ASW and AAW defenses...and both guns and missiles for the AAW threat. All American carriers have at least three layers of their own AAW defenses (ESSM, RAM, and Phalanx).

Of course, on top of all of this is the air wing the carrier carries. but its main effectiveness and use is its threat of offensive power being projected from the carrier.

And because of that threat, potential adversaries will be planning and thinking and practicing ways to destroy those carriers.

Every nation that fields such carriers MUST think this way. If they do not...or if they cannot afford to...then they should not build them.
 
Saturday at 8:37 AM
now I watched VIDEO: USS Gerald R. Ford Conducts First Arrested Landing, Catapult Launch
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only now noticed the press release
Aircraft launch, recovery historic firsts aboard USS Ford
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with this interesting view inside:
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The Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) system traps an F/A-18E/F Super Hornet on board USS Gerald R. Ford on July 29, marking a naval aviation first. (U.S. Navy Photo)
 

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For sure a milestone in fact not completly surprising EMALS launch from long time aicrafts from the land test base but are we sure the problem for fuel tanks maximum mass in fact is fixed ? and for AAG also don't appear here
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Coz possible ofc employed fighters without FTs but if you see actuals operations pics, videos majority of fighters have FTs so in this case it is good but not sufficient.
 
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now I watched USNI News Video: Sailors Talk First USS Gerald R. Ford Trap, Launch
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On Aug. 1, 2017, USNI News spoke with sailors who manned Ford’s next-generation Advanced Arresting Gear and Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) for the first trap and catapult from the $13 billion carrier’s flight deck.

EMALS and AAG are two of five transformational technologies resident on Ford and are designed to be crewed with fewer sailors and be more gentle on aircraft.

EMALS uses the same electromagnetic technology that launches modern roller coasters and can specifically dial in the force needed to launch an aircraft rather than the older, less precise Mk 13 steam catapults on the Nimitz-class.

he AAG sheds the messy hydraulics of the Mk 7 for a paddle wheel system that places less stress on the aircraft and requires less crew and maintenance.

“Typically in our manned aircraft designs, you have to build an airplane that fits within the operating envelope of the Mk-7 arresting gear and the Mk-13 catapults. So you kind of start with an operating envelope that gets you sort of a design of aircraft like we have now – F-18 Super Hornet, Growler, Joint Strike Fighter,” Rear Adm. Michael Manazir, then the Navy’s director air warfare told reporters in 2015.
“The aircraft are structured that way, they’re strengthened … you build weight and structure into the airplanes to accommodate the violence of the arrested landing. With the Advanced Arresting Gear and the ability to land an airplane – it’s still a controlled crash, but relatively more softly, and to launch it relatively more softly, and so a graduated kind of force as the airplane goes up – you can now start to do things with aircraft design that you couldn’t do before. It might allow us some more margin in weight, in size, and in structure and capability.”

Most of the sailors involved operating EMALS and AAG have worked on the system since 2013 and the arrestment was a culmination of years of work to integrate the system with the aircraft carrier.

Likewise, test pilots have spent years testing the systems at Naval Air Systems Command’s facility at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.

Both programs have been challenged and a target of public and legislative ire. Due to a major design flaw in the AAG from builder General Atomics, the Navy was considering ditching the system from future Ford-class aircraft carriers
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, President Donald Trump expressed hard opinions on the system and a desire to switch Ford back to steam, but never formally engaged the Navy, USNI News understands.

Still, against the backdrop of criticism of both systems, Ford EMLAS operator ABE1 Jeremy Stoecklein told reporters on Tuesday that when test pilot Lt. Cmdr. Jamie Struck’s Super Hornet leave the deck on EMALS he was filled with powerful emotions.

“It was euphoric,” he said.
“After that, it was, ‘Let’s do it again’.”
 
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