Aircraft Carriers III

FORBIN

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IIRC flight decks QE 16000 m2 a Nimitz 22000, Charles de Gaulle 12000 m2, Clemenceau 8800 m2 also so for QE 2000 protected on 16000 do 1/8 reasonnable

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FORBIN

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Looks like

Obi Wan.. can you sketch up a possible USN light CV like your USS Reprisal (CV 80)..improved of course...when you have a chance..THANKS!!

..like this..:D

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Yeah again a nice aviation gateway ! for smoke and drink French wine :D haha things completely not allowed on a warship :confused:
 

bd popeye

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Well you said you'd prefer two bow cats:View attachment 40303
A worthy successor to the Midway class?

I understand why one waist cat and one bow cat. . Something to do with simultaneously launch and recovery.

I like the ship Obi Wan. I'd remove the lift behind the island, it's seldom used at sea, and add a lift aft on the port side...but that's just me.
 

bd popeye

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This guy has been reading my copy I posted long ago...

I can understand why Ian Jack is impressed by the scale of the achievement of Britain’s new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth (
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, 1 July). But why not show some imagination and turn it (and her sister ship) into something really useful? It would make a wonderful emergency rescue vehicle, equipped to respond to disasters – natural and manmade – worldwide. Helicopters, heavy lifting gear, even a hospital,

I posted a similar thought long ago on AUG.22.2006..

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/aircraft-carriers.t2255/#post-42768

As far as commando ships I guess that an LHA/LHD could esily be put in service as a commando ship. But a dedicated ship would be better. One ( retired CV)could be fitted to handle "Special Forces", US Army and USAF helos. Also it could be fitted out for humanitarian efforts. i.e. special berthing for civilian refugees and more hospital spaces.

Oh my! I hope I'm not turning into another Jura!!:eek:
 
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Air Force Brat

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Maverick is gonna hafta get a NEW BABE! Kelly McGillis has gone over to the "dark side"! and he's so stinkin olde now him-self?? he's almost as olde as BDPopeye, Jeff Head, or even the AFB,,,, so gents, suggestions for leading ladies, and I'm not gonna go first, the "Honey Badger" is even checking my twitter feed??? I was driving Miss Greenfield and Little Miss Greenfield in the 4th of July parade and some cute blond hollered and asked me where my "airplane" was????

I had to do some splainin!

BD knows?? whose that girl??? isn't that how it goes Sailor Man! its tough being olde and KOOL??

not sayin I've ever been as KOOL or as Handsome as the olde Sailor Man??? not no way, but every once in a while, in certain light?? LOL< oh boy, its deep serious in here now, quick, get your slickers and boots on!
 

Jeff Head

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I understand why one waist cat and one bow cat. . Something to do with simultaneously launch and recovery.

I like the ship Obi Wan. I'd remove the lift behind the island, it's seldom used at sea, and add a lift aft on the port side...but that's just me.
I'd move the island back, like on the Ford. Have two elevators forward of the island starboard, and the elevator aft on the port side.
 

Obi Wan Russell

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I'd move the island back, like on the Ford. Have two elevators forward of the island starboard, and the elevator aft on the port side.
I was just trying to adapt the basic design without scrapping and starting from scratch, which gets MEGA expensive and long winded. I deleted the forward island to appease American tastes and routed the exhausts from the forward GT horizontally at flight deck level. I would probably go further and add some form of IR shrouding and dispersal for the exhaust. The aft island then gains an enlarged bridge (it already has and emergency bridge fitted, just as the forward island has an emergency Flyco capacity.

Doing these changes produces a ship design that can be put into production fairly quickly. More drastic changes mean more delays of course, and the idea of the exercise was to produce more carriers for the USN to supplement the Fords and Nimitz's in a reasonable timescale. Of course, you could always dust off the old CVV plans from the late 70s...CVV.jpg The CVF design internally is to be honest far more advanced, so perhaps mating the CVV flight deck layout with the CVF hull might be the way to go. I'm looking forward to hearing the opinions of the USMC Lightning pilots and crew who deploy aboard Big Liz in a few years, they seem to enjoy sailing with the RN a lot better than being on the 'Gators'.
 
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