Aircraft Carriers III

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A single conventional torpedo...
..., but I stand by my remark that in a war zone, it won't even stop the ship let alone sink it.
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... and I think if they didn't stop, they would make it bad (up to the Shinano 1944 bad)
... but since nobody is going to tell us what exactly is the protection I asked about
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how a Nimitz is protected right from below, in the middle ...
and since nobody is going to tell us what's the procedure, I'll leave it, and you may have the last word here
 

Obi Wan Russell

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... and I think if they didn't stop, they would make it bad (up to the Shinano 1944 bad)
... but since nobody is going to tell us what exactly is the protection I asked about

and since nobody is going to tell us what's the procedure, I'll leave it, and you may have the last word here
The exact nature of the underwater defences incorporated into the designs of US Supercarriers since the 50s is a closely guarded secret, to the extent they are very particular about who gets to scrap the ships when they are disposed of and what photographs can be taken of the structure. What is known is that the ship's hulls have in excess of 1000 watertight compartments and void spaces designed to absorb and minimise any damage caused by Torpedoes and Mines. USN_CV60_CV61_CV64_And_Maybe_CV59_As_Well.jpg
When the ex- USS Coral sea was scrapped, halfway through the company involved ran into sever financial difficulties and tried to sell the hulk to Chinese interests, but the US Government intervened and would not allow even a half scrapped hulk to be towed to China where undoubtedly it would be examined in great detail as other nations carriers had been. And that ship's hull and underwater defences had been designed during WW2, a generation before the Supercarriers.USS Coral Sea CV43 06.jpg
 
now found this:
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"The Navy continued to work on its new class of aircraft carriers, pushing through ongoing delays on the first-in-class Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) that was supposed to commission this year. The Navy discovered in 2015 that its
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, one of three major technological advances in this new class, needed to be redesigned.
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with the proposed solution at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, and in October Commander of Naval Sea Systems Command Vice Adm. Tom Moore told reporters the tests were going well. The Navy and Newport News Shipbuilding
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, but the ship will not be ready to deliver and commission to the Navy until the AAG problems are worked out.
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, from March to the summer to September to November, the Navy has now declined to estimate when the ship might be ready for delivery. The service also said it
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, opting instead for something closer to the proven Mk 7 MOD 3 hydraulic arresting system in the Nimitz-class carriers."
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Jeff Head

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this:

makes me wonder how a Nimitz is protected right from below, in the middle ... would it be by a double bottom, triple bottom, empty/filled arrangement(s), huh?? ... no need to tell me it's classified :)
The Nimitz class, in addition to the ASW escorts and all of the decoys and electronic warfare ASW capabilities, are all having an active ASW weapon system added to them.

Essentially it is a fast moving anti-torpedo, torpedo.

Yep...you heard me right.
 
Thursday at 8:50 AM
in case you didn't know No US Carrier Now In The Mideast

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related:
Report: Carrier Gap in Middle East Could Last Months
The return of the
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means the Middle East is now without a carrier presence — a rare occurrence amid a heated fight against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria and a slew of burgeoning tensions in Russia, China, and elsewhere.

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, who wrote about the absence of a carrier in the region, reports that the Eisenhower is set to be relieved by the George H. W. Bush, another Norfolk-based ship. But while carriers often overlap with each other for brief periods of time in theater during a handoff, the
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and may not do so for weeks to come.

The carrier is “unlikely do so before the Jan. 20 presidential inauguration of Donald Trump, according to a Navy source,” Cavas writes. “The gap could last as long as two months, sources said, between the time the Eisenhower left the combat theater and the Bush arrives.”

To blame are delays in scheduled shipyard maintenance for the Bush, which ended up spending a
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and hard-pressed to complete months of required pre-deployment training before the end of the year.

This is not the first time maintenance delays have led to a carrier gap in the Middle East in recent years. In October 2015, the departure of the carrier Theodore Roosevelt from the Persian Gulf left the
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to conduct air strikes on ISIS, a problem caused in part by a maintenance delay for the Dwight D. Eisenhower that forced the Navy to cancel its deployment and rearrange its carrier deployment plan.

Ultimately, the
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2015, ending a one-month carrier gap in the region.

The current carrier gap comes just five months after Chief of Naval Operations
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“milestone” for the service: six carriers underway simultaneously, including the Truman and Eisenhower in the Middle East and two deployed forward in the Pacific. This robust footprint did not last for long, however; the Truman returned home from its eight-month extended deployment later that month.
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The Nimitz class, in addition to the ASW escorts and all of the decoys and electronic warfare ASW capabilities, are all having an active ASW weapon system added to them.

Essentially it is a fast moving anti-torpedo, torpedo.

Yep...you heard me right.
oh I think you're talking about ACTIVE defense, but I asked about PASSIVE defense after I had challenged the claim from Thursday at 6:16 PM:
... by a single submarine launched torpedo. In reality in wartime such a hit would not cause the carrier to even stop and the sub would have alerted the battle group's ASW escorts to it's presence.

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and I'm not going to go back to that claim, especially because the final answer
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/aircraft-carriers-iii.t7304/page-154#post-431428
seemed to confuse the compartmentalization with for example multiple bottoms or any other means how to absorb the shock wave etc. etc. (yes, I've done some reading about Battleships' underwater protection, now will just quickly borrow from Lezt :) :
if a hull didn't have the bottom protected as shown above, a basketball-field-sized hole would be ripped through it by a heavyweight torp and, whatever the ""compartmentalization" above would be, several thousands tons of water would be taken in quickly)

now I just tried to clarify what each of us was probably talking about, is all
 
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