Aircraft Carriers III

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
PR campaign

Channel 4 showed Su33 taking off deck

The Russian admiral was saying they are doing first ever strike missions

But they were carrying only air to air missiles !?
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Ok I'm confused. Are the Russian conducting strike missions over Syria from Kuznetsov? If not what's the use of being in the MED? Just a static show of force?

So the 29Ks are grounded while they "figure it out?". They will keep flying those SU-33s for the purpose of a "Show of Farce"! LOL for our Russian fanboy, this is how they've done it for a long time, I NEVER count them out, but I also NEVER believe everything they tell us, or their pressors.

Russians are dangerous, witness their invasion of the Crimea, (yes, their are folks on the SDF, who have never admitted that the AFB called that one, just as it was happening!) But they do thing in a haphazard manner at times... look at their Syrian help??

They tell you they are helping you Smedlap, but they always keep the big peace of pie for themselves.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Ah ha! This video of ADM"K" shows Su-33 taking off with weapons to strike targets in Syria. I saw this in the Russian military thread.


Heh! Heh! Heh! for all our gents who tell us the J-15 will depart the Liaoning with a "full combat load" and sufficient fuel for the mission,,,,, "it AIN'T Gonna Happen" these birds are very LIGHTLY loaded as they depart that Ramp, they likely do have fuel, but NOT MANY WEAPONS? no tankers, no fill up, just a couple of rockets on each side???

The J-15 is a veritable sister to the SU-33, may carry a little more, but its not gonna blow off that deck with a full load either, that's why "tanking" is going to be so very important..Take off with a load and "tank up" before heading to the combat zone!

That's why its important that the Chinese design and build a CATOBAR carrier, as to the Russians, sadly they are likely targeting the Syrian opposition to Asad, he's not a nice man, kind-of a male HRC, just mean. Just a further example of how the BHO/HRC team have mucked up life in the Arab world for everybody, no wonder people hate us????

Asif said they were carrying A2A??? what are they carrying for real????
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Ok I'm confused. Are the Russian conducting strike missions over Syria from Kuznetsov? If not what's the use of being in the MED? Just a static show of force?
From the begining severals well informed observers have say mainly a show not surprising we see since several days.

PR campaign

Channel 4 showed Su33 taking off deck

The Russian admiral was saying they are doing first ever strike missions

But they were carrying only air to air missiles !?
Possible :)

So the 29Ks are grounded while they "figure it out?". They will keep flying those SU-33s for the purpose of a "Show of Farce"! LOL for our Russian fanboy, this is how they've done it for a long time, I NEVER count them out, but I also NEVER believe everything they tell us, or their pressors.

They tell you they are helping you Smedlap, but they always keep the big peace of pie for themselves.

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Heh! Heh! Heh! for all our gents who tell us the J-15 will depart the Liaoning with a "full combat load" and sufficient fuel for the mission,,,,, "it AIN'T Gonna Happen" these birds are very LIGHTLY loaded as they depart that Ramp, they likely do have fuel, but NOT MANY WEAPONS? no tankers, no fill up, just a couple of rockets on each side???
Grounded is the good term for a naval fighter o_O:)

Fortunately you post here out... sure a true mess eventually a" war" for several days... :rolleyes::cool:
 

Gloire_bb

Captain
Registered Member
Asif said they were carrying A2A??? what are they carrying for real????
Distinctive rockets with large X-shaped surfaces are R-27 family(R-27ER in this case, i presume). They're A2A.

And yes, Mig-29K/KR, apart from being pure multi role and other advantages, - can carry significantly more from all deck positions.
 

Gloire_bb

Captain
Registered Member
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Channel 4 showed Su33 taking off deck

The Russian admiral was saying they are doing first ever strike missions

But they were carrying only air to air missiles !?

It's simply earlier footage, from november 13-14. There were no strike missions before announced end of strike pause.
CAP,Armed reconnaissance, theatre introduction runs, training.
It should be remembered, what these are more than just first ever strike missions.
For most part of her life, 279th was pure A2A unit, without notable strike training.
Current run can be thus seen as "proof of concept", if carrier never really meant to work as primary multi-purpose tool can be effective enough as such.
We shall see.

Btw, it actually is equally important question to China.
 
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