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bd popeye

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well done popeye for keeping the thread alive I enjoy your carrier thread of Mil photos (is that alright to mention other sights)

Thank you sir! Many members and guest view the photos I post but few comment. Thanks again!
 
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harryRIEDL

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excellent news the CVF construction has started plus a few new contracts have been announced for fitting's and fixtures. Steel has been cut at DML Appledor
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£90m contracts for work on carriers
An Equipment and Logistics news article

16 Jan 09

£90m worth of contracts have been announced for steelwork, modular cabins, galley equipment and other components for the Royal Navy's new aircraft carriers, HM Ships Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales.
Artist's impression of the Future Carrier

Artist's impression of the Future Carrier
[Picture: MOD]

The key contracts announced today, Friday 16 January 2009, which are expected to sustain some 190 jobs nationwide at peak production, include:

• £50m for steelwork for bow sections of the two carriers, to be carried out at Babcock's Appledore Shipyard in Devon, sustaining some 150 jobs at peak production;

• Galley equipment, £3.4m, Kempsafe Ltd (Southampton);

• Modular cabins and wet spaces, £23m, McGill Services Ltd, sustaining about 40 jobs at peak production (Billingham, County Durham);

• Furniture to be installed throughout the ships, £4.4m, McGill Services Ltd;

• Windows, £1.3m, Tex Special Projects Ltd (Ipswich);

• Doors and hatches, £3.9m, McGeoch Marine Ltd (Inchinnan, Renfrewshire);

• Aircraft electrical supplies equipment, £4m, Ultra Electronics PMES (Rugeley, Staffs).

Early steelwork for the bow unit of Queen Elizabeth commenced in Appledore in December.

After visiting Appledore Shipyard in North Devon, MOD Defence Equipment and Support's Director of Capital Ships, Tony Graham, said:

"Walking on the prepared steel plate destined to become an internal deck on HMS Queen Elizabeth gives everyone at the shipyard a sense of expectation. We have been making progress in engineering and procurement on this programme but we can now see the reality of a ship in build.

"Later this year we will see production start in the main shipyards, where the overall scale of the carriers will become clear. Just days into 2009, there is a real sense of excitement among the partners and confidence in the momentum behind this project."

"Just days into 2009, there is a real sense of excitement among the partners and confidence in the momentum behind this project."

Tony Graham, MOD

Geoff Searle, Programme Director of the Aircraft Carrier Alliance, on the tour of the site, said:

"After many years of design, engineering and planning work across the whole of the Aircraft Carrier Alliance, it is fantastic to be in Appledore to see physical proof of the project moving into the next phase. It is also an excellent example of how this iconic project will involve companies in many parts of the UK, creating and sustaining thousands of jobs, like those of the 14 new apprentices taken on here in Appledore, the first for six years."

Today's announcements form part of the £3bn manufacture contract, which was awarded by MOD to the Aircraft Carrier Alliance in July 2008.

The Aircraft Carrier Alliance – a single integrated team formed from BVT Surface Fleet, BAE Systems Marine, Babcock, Thales UK and MOD – will deliver the carriers HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales.

Work on the ships is expected to create or sustain 10,000 jobs in the UK at its peak.

At last comes to mind :D and great news
thought about the UK thread but thought the carrier thread more appropriate
 

bd popeye

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The CVF project finally has some teeth in it. I hope the politicans in the UK keep their grubby hands off of this project.
 

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Here's a few very recent photos of the HMS Ark Royal

I'd love to see some USMC Sea Harriers deployed on this ship.:)

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LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - JANUARY 15: Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal sails up the River Mersey as it arrives for a four day visit to the maritime city, on January 15, 2009of Liverpool, England. The flagship of the Royal Navy is taking part in VIP receptions and will be opening its decks for visits by the public over the weekend.

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HMS Ark Royal, the flagship of Britain's Royal Navy, sails past figures from Anthony Gormley's "Another Place" installation at Crosby near Liverpool, northern England January 15, 2009. The aircraft carrier is on a four-day visit to Liverpool.

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IVERPOOL, ENGLAND - JANUARY 15: Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal sails up the River Mersey, past a WWII memorial statue, as it arrives for a four day visit to the maritime city, on January 15, 2009.

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LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND - JANUARY 15: Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal sails up the River Mersey past The Liver Building at the beginning of a four day visit to the maritime city on January 15, 2009
 

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The CVF project finally has some teeth in it. I hope the politicans in the UK keep their grubby hands off of this project.

I don't think the politicians will try to interfere; it is providing work for many of their constituents and none of them are willing to cancel a contract throwing many of their constituents out of work and possibly being angry at them.
 

bd popeye

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The PCU(Pre-Commision Unit) Makin Island successfully completed her initial builders trial last month in the Gulf of Mexico. The ship is being built by Northrup-Grumman in Pascagoula MS.

MAKIN ISLAND will be commissioned on October 24, 2009, in San Diego, CA. More information on accommodations, the ceremony, invitations and on how you can participate is available at;

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USS MAKIN ISLAND (LHD 8) is currently under construction by Northrop Grumman Ship Systems in Pascagoula, Mississippi. MAKIN ISLAND will be the last LHD built in the WASP Class but will be the only one powered by LM 2500+ Gas Turbine Engines and Electric Drive.

Additionally, MAKIN ISLAND is the only LHD to feature an all electric design -- no steam is used onboard MAKIN ISLAND.

As the final member of the WASP Class LHD's, MAKIN ISLAND is emerging from previous U.S. Navy Amphibious Forces and setting the stage for the under-development successor to the Wasp Class, the LHA (R) Class of Amphibious Landing Ship.
 
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bd popeye

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I read this article in the Navy times. Very interesting. Seems the USN is changing the configuration of it's CVWs..19 SH/60s..Wow!

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Stennis group heads out heavy on helicopters

By Andrew Tilghman - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Jan 27, 2009 14:24:45 EST

The West Coast-based carrier air wing that deployed earlier this month included more helicopters than ever.

When the John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group left Jan. 17, the Navy began testing a new air wing configuration that features two MH-60 Seahawk helicopter squadrons, rather than one.

Previously, carrier air wings typically deployed with 12 helicopters, which included a squadron and a small detachment, while a small command element remained back on the beach. The rotary-wing aircrafts’ missions were often limited to search-and-rescue and logistical missions.

The new wing configuration has two full squadrons for a total of about 19 aircraft, with their leadership aboard, all under the carrier air wing and strike group commander. These helicopters are heavily armed and will take over missions such as anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare and supporting SEALs or other special operations troops.

That signals a shift in naval aviation toward more reliance on rotary-wing aircraft, several aviation officers said.

“They don’t go Mach 3 like the Hornets, but they are mission-flexible,” said Capt. Thomas Criger, a staff officer with Naval Air Forces who has helped oversee the transition to the new helicopter programs.

The expanded mission stems in part from the Navy’s recent retirement of the S-3 Viking, which used to give the air wing its primary anti-submarine capability and then migrated toward midair refueling. Helicopters are taking over the sub-hunting mission.
Today’s different missions

It also reflects the Navy’s move away from the Cold War-era emphasis on long-range aircraft and blue-water operations toward missions such as humanitarian relief or support in littoral areas.

“In the new war-fighting environment, the Navy is continuously dealing with targets either ashore or close to the shore. If you’re looking for a terrorist in a speedboat, it simply may not be suitable to use a Super Hornet or other supersonic aircraft,” said Loren Thompson, a defense consultant with the Lexington Institute in Virginia.

“The closer you get to shore, the more you need the ability to dwell. What the rotor craft gets you is a granularity and a precision that is beyond the capability of most other carrier-based aircraft,” Thompson said.

In addition to the air wing’s new configuration, the helicopters themselves are new.

The Navy is replacing its older H-60 B, F and H models with the MH-60R and MH-60S.

The Stennis cruise marks the first time a Romeo and a Sierra squadron are deployed together.

Each squadron has distinct roles, with the Romeo models loaded with intelligence equipment and the Sierras armed for combat operations.

“They have the better sensors, and we have more weapons, more missiles, more guns,” said Cmdr. Michael Ruth, commanding officer of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 8, which is deployed on Stennis with Sierras.

The Sierras are equipped for special operations. Many have armored floors, a .50-caliber gun and eight Hellfire missiles.

For the Romeos, force protection will be a priority.

“Our primary purpose is to enable the strike group to go anywhere and operate in any environment,” said Cmdr. Michael Nortier, commander of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71, which also deployed with Stennis.

Piracy is one threat that may bring the two squadrons together, Ruth said.

“One of the biggest problems with pirates is identifying who the pirates are. The Romeo is one of the best platforms out there to ID pirates and see where they are. They transmit the link to us and we have the firepower and troops to come in at night and take those ships down,” Ruth said.

Now that the new helicopters are fielded, the next challenge is learning how to use them most effectively, Ruth said.

“There’s a hesitancy sometimes to let the helos go forward. The leadership on a carrier strike group always wants to be able to protect the CSG, and any time you let the helos wander off too far, you lose some of that protection,” Ruth said. “It’s a cultural mindset that I think will slowly dissolve over time.”

The changes are visible on the Stennis, where more helicopters are packed onto the deck and about 40 percent of the wing’s sailors and officers will be from rotary-wing units.

“The helicopter force has never been more relevant,” said Capt. Donald Williamson, commodore of the Helicopter Maritime Strike Wing in San Diego.

“I think we will find that helicopters will be a force multiplier for the [carrier strike group] in ways that people have never thought about.”
 

bd popeye

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Humm?? I'm surprised no one has commented on the recent deployment of the USNs CVN-74 with 19 SH-60 variants. That's a large number of helos of all types. ASW,SAR / Attack. Presently an LHA/LHD deploys with 23 helos of various types.

There is certainly of plenty of room on board for those helos with the retirement of Tomcats & Vikings.

The "R" model shows that the US is very serious in combating pirates & other "threats". Perhaps the message now is that the gloves are off..no more Mr Nice guy.
 

Jeff Head

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I read this article in the Navy times. Very interesting. Seems the USN is changing the configuration of it's CVWs..19 SH/60s..Wow!
Well, for ASW work, to replace the role of the Viking, it may well be needed...though I would much prefer seeing the return of a wing of dedicated, fixed-wing, large store, long range (and long loiter time) aircraft like some kind of V-22 Osprey outfitted for ASW and dedicated to ASW work. I believe the greatest threat to the carrier group is still a sub, and believe that defense in depth (with a fast attack sub of their own, ASW escort vessels, a wing of ASW helos on the carrier for close-in prosecution, and a wing of long range ASW fixed wing aircraft) is still the best.

As to the super carrier itself being outfitted with a bunch of support helos, particularly for ground support missions...well, on occassion for a specific mission perhaps it is a good thing and allows flexibility. But my own feeling is that the use of large numbers of rotary aircraft off a full deck carrier for close support work on any long term or regular basis is a waste of the resource. The super carrier is specifically built for heavy power projection using fixed wing aircraft. Use the LHA and LHD classes for this other work...and the new LHA(R) America class vessels for a crossover using the F-35 for a "Jeep" carrier as necessary. But thaty's just my opinion.
 

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It seems the USN is moving towards an air wing concept similar to the RN's Tailored Air Group concept, increasing flexibility and keeping the carriers themselves relevent to the changing face of warfare. In future I would expect the composition of the rotary wing complement to be varies according to requirements, eg swapping a sqn of SeaHawks for a sqn of Ospreys for special forces insertion. The CVN may be closer to the scene of the problem than LHDs and the Ospreys could 'forward deploy to the CVN for an operation. Also the possibilities of allied deployments rises, with perhaps a sqn of NATO helos staying aboard for short spells as required. The key to the Carrier has always been flexibility, and perhaps this marks a new dawn for the flat tops.
 
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