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navyreco

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Pictures and videos: Interoperability between US Navy and Marine Nationale CSG in the Gulf
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The current deployment in the Gulf region of two carrier strike groups (CSG): A U.S. Navy one with the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier (CVN) USS Carl Vinson a French Navy (Marine Nationale) one with CVN Charles de Gaulle is the occasion for the two allied navies to test, implement and improve their interoperability while on theatre and while actively engaged in combat missions.
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Xian

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No...they can operate both. And they do on occasion. My statement is 100% correct.

Both of those Italian carriers are fixed wing capable and have operated them as such in the past.

It is true they only have one wing of the Harriers...but they do cross deck onto both vessels, and are capable of operating both simultaneously...with either their own aircraft, or cross decked with others..

I leave my statement standing, with no modification.

The Italian are one of only three nations who operate two or more fixed wing carriers.

Don't know where your Informations are from.... i talked to a navy guy dureing a port-visit of Garibaldi in Triest.
And he told me, that Garibaldi is right now only backup for Cavour and if Cavour is available it serves as helicopter carrier together with the San Giorgio class LPD and San Marco Marines are embarked with there choppers!
That Information also matches the german Wiki entry for Garibaldi:
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Seit Ende 2012 wird die Garibaldi in einer neuen Rolle als Hubschrauberträger für amphibische Operationen verwendet. Flugzeuge nimmt sie nur noch auf, wenn der 2009 in Dienst gestellte Flugzeugträger
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wegen Werftliegezeiten oder aus anderen Gründen nicht verfügbar ist. In ihrer neuen Rolle ergänzt die Garibaldi die Landungsschiffe der
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Translation:
Since 2012 the Garibaldi serves in ah new role as helicopter carrier for amphibious operations. Fixed-wing aircrafts are only embarked if the Cavour, comissioned 2009, is not available due to maintenance. In its new role the Garibaldi supplements the San Giorgio class and so the amphibious forces of the San Marco Brigade.
 

Jeff Head

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Don't know where your Informations are from.... i talked to a navy guy dureing a port-visit of Garibaldi in Triest.

And he told me, that Garibaldi is right now only backup for Cavour and if Cavour is available it serves as helicopter carrier together with the San Giorgio class LPD and San Marco Marines are embarked with there choppers!
I understand all of this full well. I have been following it for many years...since the Italians initially came up with the plan and design for the Cavour.

That does not mean that the Garibaldi is incapable of operating harriers.

The Garibaldi was designed to operate the Harriers and still can. Therefore, as I said, the Italians operate two carriers capable of fixed-wing (Harrier) operations.

They can use their own aircraft, or they can cross deck others, and on occasion they have done so since the Cavour came online.

I understand completely the current tasking of the Garibaldi as a helicopter carrier...but that does not mean she is incapable of fixed wing operation. And in a crisis, she would.
 

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Naval Today said:
The US Navy will position its newest aircraft carrier, USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), in Hampton Roads, Naval Station Norfolk, according to Virginia Congressional delegation.

This will provide an additional aircraft carrier to the region until 2018 when the USS Lincoln returns to its home port. In addition the Navy has decided to reverse an earlier decision and will maintain Little Creek as a deep water amphibious port and homeport four amphibious ships at Little Creek through 2020. The delegation worked with the Navy to fund critical infrastructure upgrades for Little Creek, including a $30 million electrical grid upgrade in 2012.

Sen. Tim Kaine, whose advocacy in the Senate Armed Services committee was key to maintaining the Navy’s 11 operational aircraft carrier fleet, said:

“Combined with our successful effort last year to restore funding for the refueling and overhaul of the USS George Washington, the Navy’s decision to homeport the USS Gerald Ford in Norfolk is welcome news for Hampton Roads.

This news comes as the result of years of efforts to invest in these facilities.

Here's a couple of more recent pictures of her outfitting next to the decommissioned USS Enterprise which is being dismantled. In with the new...out with the old..


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Xian

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I understand all of this full well. I have been following it for many years...since the Italians initially came up with the plan and design for the Cavour.

That does not mean that the Garibaldi is incapable of operating harriers.

The Garibaldi was designed to operate the Harriers and still can. Therefore, as I said, the Italians operate two carriers capable of fixed-wing (Harrier) operations.

They can use their own aircraft, or they can cross deck others, and on occasion they have done so since the Cavour came online.

I understand completely the current tasking of the Garibaldi as a helicopter carrier...but that does not mean she is incapable of fixed wing operation. And in a crisis, she would.

Okay, so i misunderstood your initial post.
What i wanted to say is that they actually dont use it as fixed wing carrier, but you are right, if they want to use the Garibaldi as fixed-wing aircraft carrier, they are able to do so in case of crises....
 
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Jeff Head

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I really like that pic.

An excellent juxtaposition with the Old Lady of the Sea, USS Enterprise, CVN-65, being dismantled, as the new Queen of the Sea, USS Gerald Ford, CVN-78, is being outfitting...right next to each other.

USS Enterprise was commissioned in November 1961 and then decommissioned in January 2012, over 51 years later.

Now that is naval enthusiast eye-candy if there ever was any.
 

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