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as if the Italian Navy heard you, Jeff, and put this: on Facebook yesterday
the other ships are and
one of I hope, based on the pictures here:
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as if the Italian Navy heard you, Jeff, and put this: on Facebook yesterday
the other ships are and
one of I hope, based on the pictures here:
Agreed that the Indian Navy has operated Carriers for some time. It's first was an Ex-RN Carrier. Although not in number of naval assets like the PLA-N, the Indian Navy is more experience in naval operations. They were trained by the RN and also the Russian Navy, and had operated against the Pakistan Navy some years back. It is also interesting to note that there were Indian naval officers and ratings who served under the British "Royal Indian Navy (RIN)" and its Naval Reserve during WW II in the Burma Campaign. They saw action in the Bay of Bengal and the "Burmese Chaungs" (rivers/marsh lands) against the Japanese Forces.
a comparison ,to ins vikrant india's first aircraft carrier[video=youtube;YeX4-vVWmRM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeX4-vVWmRM[/video]
Another great video. Lots of good images about the Vikram and the Viraat. Some I had never seen before.
Loved the full dark, night ops shown after 8:20 or so in the video.
However, that first song is kind of cheesey to me...it's probably a cultural thing though.
The money shots are the Vikramaditya with a deck full of Mig-29Ks. That's why she was purchased and refit.
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On Osprey:
Posted on InsideDefense.com: June 20, 2014
A closely held Navy assessment of the MV-22's performance during a 2013 aircraft carrier logistics exercise concludes the tilt-rotor Osprey is well suited to the carrier on-board delivery mission, a finding that could influence the shape of the service's upcoming competition to recapitalize its aging C-2A Greyhound fleet.
The MV-22 program office, in a statutorily required report updating Congress on V-22 cost and schedule issues, revealed the bottom-line finding of a "military utility assessment" prepared last year following a six-day sustainment exercise on the Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) off the Florida coast.
"The V-22 demonstrated an effective, flexible, and safe capability to conduct the COD mission with no modifications and no adverse impact to cyclic flight operations," the MUA states, as quoted by the V-22 program office in a December 2013 Selected Acquisition Report sent to Congress in April.
The COD mission is to provide high-priority transport of personnel, supplies, critically needed cargo -- such as replacement parts -- and mail from shore to an aircraft carrier.
At the request last year of the director of air warfare on the Navy staff (N98), Naval Air Forces Atlantic conducted the military utility assessment in mid-June 2013, dispatching two MV-22s to assess the Osprey's impact on the carrier flight deck and on flight operations while executing the carrier on-board delivery mission in support of a nuclear aircraft carrier.
A goal was to assess how MV-22s executed the COD mission in an operationally representative situation, particularly with high-tempo flight-deck operations -- which averaged about 98 sorties daily during the exercise, according to a government source.
The office that commissioned the assessment -- N98 -- has been at the center of the Navy's "Airborne Resupply/Logistics for Seabasing" analysis of alternatives through which the service has explored, among other things, concepts for a manned, carrier-suitable logistics aircraft to replace the capability provided by the C-2A as soon as 2026.
Northrop Grumman, the original builder of the C-2A, has proposed a modernized replacement that leverages improvements incorporated in the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, one of the Navy's largest current acquisition efforts.
To date, the Navy has not divulged details of the MUA or indicated how last summer's assessment is affecting plans to modernize the C-2 fleet.
"Any OPNAV decisions related to the MUA are still pending," Cmdr. Mike Kafka, a spokesman for Naval Air Forces Atlantic, told InsideDefense.com.
Interested lawmakers, however, want to see the full MUA report and the associated AR/LS analysis of alternatives. The House Armed Services tactical air and land forces subcommittee this spring directed the Navy to produce both no later than this fall.
"The committee understands that the Department of the Navy has conducted an assessment of whether the MV-22 could be used to replace the C-2A Greyhound aircraft currently performing the carrier on-board delivery (COD) mission for the Department of the Navy," the subcommittee said in a report on the fiscal year 2015 House defense authorization bill. "The committee further understands that the MV-22's unique combination of speed, range, and vertical agility creates possibilities for transforming the way that carrier on-board delivery is accomplished."
The Navy plans to spend nearly $340 million between FY-15 and FY-19 on a carrier on-board delivery follow-on program, including $8.8 million in FY-15, $19.2 million in FY-16, $73.7 million in FY-17, $100 million in FY-18 and $135 million in FY-19.
FY-15 funding would be used to begin "the process to approve the programmatic documentation required to enter Milestone B in FY-16," the Navy's budget request states, referring to a plan to select an aircraft in FY-16 to perform the medium-lift, long-range logistics mission. In April, Inside the Navy reported the service was contemplating a two-year delay to this plan due to budget constraints.
Posted on InsideDefense.com: June 20, 2014
A closely held Navy assessment of the MV-22's performance during a 2013 aircraft carrier logistics exercise concludes the tilt-rotor Osprey is well suited to the carrier on-board delivery mission, a finding that could influence the shape of the service's upcoming competition to recapitalize its aging C-2A Greyhound fleet.
The MV-22 program office, in a statutorily required report updating Congress on V-22 cost and schedule issues, revealed the bottom-line finding of a "military utility assessment" prepared last year following a six-day sustainment exercise on the Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) off the Florida coast.
"The V-22 demonstrated an effective, flexible, and safe capability to conduct the COD mission with no modifications and no adverse impact to cyclic flight operations," the MUA states, as quoted by the V-22 program office in a December 2013 Selected Acquisition Report sent to Congress in April.
The COD mission is to provide high-priority transport of personnel, supplies, critically needed cargo -- such as replacement parts -- and mail from shore to an aircraft carrier.
At the request last year of the director of air warfare on the Navy staff (N98), Naval Air Forces Atlantic conducted the military utility assessment in mid-June 2013, dispatching two MV-22s to assess the Osprey's impact on the carrier flight deck and on flight operations while executing the carrier on-board delivery mission in support of a nuclear aircraft carrier.
A goal was to assess how MV-22s executed the COD mission in an operationally representative situation, particularly with high-tempo flight-deck operations -- which averaged about 98 sorties daily during the exercise, according to a government source.
The office that commissioned the assessment -- N98 -- has been at the center of the Navy's "Airborne Resupply/Logistics for Seabasing" analysis of alternatives through which the service has explored, among other things, concepts for a manned, carrier-suitable logistics aircraft to replace the capability provided by the C-2A as soon as 2026.
Northrop Grumman, the original builder of the C-2A, has proposed a modernized replacement that leverages improvements incorporated in the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, one of the Navy's largest current acquisition efforts.
To date, the Navy has not divulged details of the MUA or indicated how last summer's assessment is affecting plans to modernize the C-2 fleet.
"Any OPNAV decisions related to the MUA are still pending," Cmdr. Mike Kafka, a spokesman for Naval Air Forces Atlantic, told InsideDefense.com.
Interested lawmakers, however, want to see the full MUA report and the associated AR/LS analysis of alternatives. The House Armed Services tactical air and land forces subcommittee this spring directed the Navy to produce both no later than this fall.
"The committee understands that the Department of the Navy has conducted an assessment of whether the MV-22 could be used to replace the C-2A Greyhound aircraft currently performing the carrier on-board delivery (COD) mission for the Department of the Navy," the subcommittee said in a report on the fiscal year 2015 House defense authorization bill. "The committee further understands that the MV-22's unique combination of speed, range, and vertical agility creates possibilities for transforming the way that carrier on-board delivery is accomplished."
The Navy plans to spend nearly $340 million between FY-15 and FY-19 on a carrier on-board delivery follow-on program, including $8.8 million in FY-15, $19.2 million in FY-16, $73.7 million in FY-17, $100 million in FY-18 and $135 million in FY-19.
FY-15 funding would be used to begin "the process to approve the programmatic documentation required to enter Milestone B in FY-16," the Navy's budget request states, referring to a plan to select an aircraft in FY-16 to perform the medium-lift, long-range logistics mission. In April, Inside the Navy reported the service was contemplating a two-year delay to this plan due to budget constraints.
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The issues for Ospreys in CODs is that it cannot fit the F35s F135 engines internally, and it is a pricy bird. The advantage of Ospreys in Cods is the Navy could eliminate the hub and spoke system in favor of a more direct method. Today for cargo to get to say a destroyer on deployment via the air. It would first be loaded on a C2 flown to a carrier where it is unloaded sorted and loaded aboard a helicopter which then transfers it to the crew of the destroyer. If Ospreys take the job then the model can change so once loaded until delivery the cargo never needs to be swapped to another platform.
I've seen a lot of C-2s land on a CV and unload cargo.. never ever seen an aircraft engine in that cargo. Usually a carrier has engines stored before deployment that may be used during the deployment. I have seen engines delivered during an UNREP or VERTREP.
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