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Thank you for finaly admitting about forum problems. Not easy to get a respons on mail either. Not easy when you cant see our own posts, what where i suposed to doo?? So how long do you want us to wait before republishing? I have tried waiting for up to 24 hours before reposting, nothing happens. And why is it that sometimes i get a message saying that an admin need to acknowledge my post before it will appear in the thread and sometimes not?

Another thing..You have to understand how confusing it is when i do a post, and can see my post in the thread immediately after (on different computesr as well, just to wake up next day and see your post removed. Also when i dont have double-posts.....
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I have admitted this proplem right from the start and have mentioned it openly before also. Its a tecknical proplem in the forums structure and we are trying to sort it out. Sofar we have had very little if no succses. I'm well awere all the proplems this is causing and cannot do anything but apologizes the inconvinience from the whole forums behalf. Unfortunetly I have no administrative powers so I cannot go to the roots of the proplem by myself. Our Webmaster is having personal reasons for his current abcence and thus this only lenghtens the solution for this proplem. For this also we are sorry.

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Kitty Hawk & Tarawa lead list of USN ships to be decomissioned in FY 2009.

I doubt if the USN would sell either of these ships. I'm sure some nation would love to have the Tarawa.. It would need a complete and very expensive re-fit. It still has a steam powered powered propulsion. So does the Kitty Hawk. The Kitty Hawk was commissioned at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard on April 29, 1961.

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Kitty Hawk leads list of ships going away

By Zachary M. Peterson - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Feb 13, 2008 17:29:30 EST

The Navy plans to say goodbye to an aircraft carrier and three amphibious ships in the next fiscal year.

The Austin-class amphibious transport dock ships (LPDs) Juneau and Nashville, amphibious assault ship Tarawa (LHA 1) and the aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk are slated to leave the fleet in fiscal 2009.

Based in Yokosuka, Japan, Kitty Hawk was built by New York Shipbuilding Corp. in New Jersey and commissioned in April 1961. The carrier was the first of three super carriers and is the last conventionally-powered carrier in the fleet.

The Japan-based Juneau was constructed by Lockheed Shipbuilding and Construction Co. in Seattle and commissioned in 1969. The ship went on five separate deployments to Vietnam in the early 1970s and earned five battle stars for efforts during the Vietnam War, according to the ship’s Web site. The “Mighty J” was the first ship on station after the Exxon Valdez oil spill off the coast of Alaska, supported the deployment of Marines to Somalia, made multiple Persian Gulf deployments and helped in cyclone relief efforts in Bangladesh.

The Norfolk, Va.,-based Nashville was also built by Lockheed Shipbuilding and Construction. The ship was commissioned in 1970. The Navy is now building San Antonio-class ships to eventually replace the older LPD ships.

The Tarawa was built by the Ingalls Shipbuilding Division of Litton Industries in Pascagoula, Miss., and was commissioned in 1976. The amphibious assault ship has spent its life in the Pacific Ocean and in the Middle East, where the ship is currently operating in the 5th Fleet area of operations.
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I have question regarding Russian carrier Kuznetsov's size. Some sources say that the displacement is 67,500 tons fully loaded, some say that it is 65,000 tons fully loaded, some say that it is 58,000 tons fully loaded. Which one is more accurate?
 
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Update on the Vikramitdya (sorry if I spelled it wrong, I've just got up and I'm off to work):
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Some nice pictures there. Pre-work done for extending the deck and making the skijump. Looks kinda weird though, just welding pieces of metal on the old hull like that, but for all i know this is the way of doing it. I would have thought they prepared the "inner hull" better, cutting of the other layer to reach the "inner structure"..
Also weird to see the old "bow emblem" (whats the correct name for it?) lying on the ground in front of the ship. No one wants it? It is a remarkable symbol of old times glory.. Would love to have it on my house wall :D
 
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Thank god i am not responsible for setting up all the iron-construction around the ship. What a mess.
When the work is finished your boss gives you the resonsibility of taking it all down..Nice day at work :)
 
Obi Wan Russell

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The only parallells I can think of to the reconstruction of the Vikramitdya are the reconstructions of the US Midway and Essex class carriers in the 50s and 60s and HMS Victorious, which is probably the closest parallell. The latter vessel was stripped down to hangar deck level and rebuilt, resulting in a completely new bow form. The Russian shipyard may well have done this and it just looks from the pictures that the new bow structure has just been welded to the outside of the old bows. Still, nice to see some definite progress, though the original schedule now appears wildly unrealistic. For the time and money involved, with hindsight the Indians should have asked for a whole new carrier to be built, perhaps an improved Kuznetzov type rather than the botched hybrid cruiser carrier conversion they will end up with. It seems obvious to me that the Russians are using the extra money they are getting from India for this project to invest in updating the shipyard at Severomorsk, with an eye to future carrier construction that the current administration keeps dropping hints about, now that the Black Sea Ukrainian shipyards are beyond the reach of the Russians. Also now that future Russian CVs won't have to transit the Bosphorus on their maiden voyage, any pretence that they are not carriers will be dropped.
 
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OK, here's just a latest pic of the spanish BPE. Moves forward nicely.

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Interesting contrast to other nations building techniques, for example in Britain the hull is built in blocks which are almost completely fitted out and painted before they are welded together. The Spanish appear to be using the more traditional method, though painting appears to have commence at the base of the ski jump. Look forward to seeing this fine ship and her Aussie sisters in service in the years to come.
 
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Interesting contrast to other nations building techniques, for example in Britain the hull is built in blocks which are almost completely fitted out and painted before they are welded together
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The US uses the same method when building warships. I believe it's called modular building. It's like putting a giant puzzle together.

The worldwide carrier building craze is going full bore... US, UK, France, Japan, S.Korea, Spain, Italy, Austraila & China..

There are many missions that a CV can be used for. Lets hope that all these ships are a deterrant to War and used in humanitarian efforts.
 
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