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May also have additional or enlarged ready room for the standbys.. what do you think bd?

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I know on Nimitz the ready rooms were on the 03 level not far from the island. I think all of them were on the starboard side.. except the helo ready room which I think was on the post side 03 level near the angle.

bd popeye said:

I know on Nimitz the ready rooms were on the 03 level not far from the island. I think all of them were on the starboard side.. except the helo ready room which I think was on the post side 03 level near the angle.

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On the Ford the island has been move so much aft so not sure what other things have change on the interior space management.

kwaigonegin said:

Well if you want my honest opinion I may have mention that I don't care too much for the hmm bigass look or should I say 'enhanced posterior' but it appears that the redesign extension does not in any way impede the handling, seaworthiness nor negatively affect the performance of the ship so I say go for it.

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We are used to seeing a more "trim" look there aft and will just have to get used to that big-hog look back there.

kwaigonegin said:

Extra space is always welcome. At the end of the day an aircraft carrier's primary mission is to launch and recover aircraft as quickly as possible. Everything else is secondary.

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Agreed.

And just looking at the flight deck arrangement there aft, with the largerspaces on decks 1 snd 2, I believe they have missed out on an easy chance to increase flight deck size, spotting, room.

Here's how it looks now:


See how they have those large open areas on top of the spaces they have added at the port and starboard aft quaters? There is quite a bit of deck space they could easily adss there. Here's a proposed configurtion with that deck space added. Easily could spot two if not three more aircraft, and have more clear approaches to each by simply covering that over with more flight deck.


Anyhow, just an observation.

Jeff Head said:

We are used to seeing a more "trim" look there aft and will just have to get used to that big-hog look back there.

Agreed.

And just looking at the flight deck arrangement there aft, with the largerspaces on decks 1 snd 2, I believe they have missed out on an easy chance to increase flight deck size, spotting, room.

See how they have those large open areas on top of the spaces they have added at the port and starboard aft quaters? There is quite a bit of deck space they could easily adss there. Here's a proposed configurtion with that deck space added. Easily could spot two if not three more aircraft, and have more clear approaches to each by simply covering that over with more flight deck.

Anyhow, just an observation.

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I would go a step further Jeff. Remove the ESSM/Phalanx mounts on both port and starboard alltogether and have the flight deck completely over the new compartments. You will then have a very large additional flight deck on the stern of the ship. You can always add some small sponsons somewhere to mount to relocated the weaponry.

My guess is maybe the new boxy extensions portuding out are not really meant for extreme load bearing therefore you can't have that much weight over it with the flight deck and aircrafts on top. May develop big cracks overtime where the seams are.

kwaigonegin said:

I would go a step further Jeff. Remove the ESSM/Phalanx mounts on both port and starboard alltogether and have the flight deck completely over the new compartments. You will then have a very large additional flight deck on the stern of the ship. You can always add some small sponsons somewhere to mount to relocated the weaponry.

My guess is maybe the new boxy extensions portuding out are not really meant for extreme load bearing therefore you can't have that much weight over it with the flight deck and aircrafts on top. May develop big cracks overtime where the seams are.

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Well, IMHO, given the motion of the ship in heavy seas, they had to design some pretty significant structural "beef" into those extensions anyway, the way they cantilever out like that.

The weight of 2-3 aircraft should not make an appreciable differnce given those forces, and in fact tieing them to the stiffness of the overall flight deck would help stiffen it up even more.

I could sit down and do all the calcs, and figure out the differences...but, hehehe...that's what they have younger minds for these days.

Jeff Head said:

Well, IMHO, given the motion of the ship in heavy seas, they had to design some pretty significant structural "beef" into those extensions anyway, the way they cantilever out like that.

The weight of 2-3 aircraft should not make an appreciable differnce given those forces, and in fact tieing them to the stiffness of the overall flight deck would help stiffen it up even more.

I could sit down and do all the calcs, and figure out the differences...but, hehehe...that's what they have younger minds for these days.

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Don't know ... but whatever the reason I do agree with you that it's a waste they were not able to fully utilize the additional space on top.

São Paulo catapult: A DCNS team on the bridge of the Brazilian Navy aircraft carrier

At the request of the Brazilian Navy, DCNS performed a ship check on the forward catapult of the aircraft carrier São Paulo. The steam catapult, which already performed over 5000 launches, is a key element for the aircraft carrier capability. The goal of this intervention was to perform diagnostics and trials for the Brazilian Navy to restore the catapult’s potential.

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navyreco said:

São Paulo catapult: A DCNS team on the bridge of the Brazilian Navy aircraft carrier

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Thanks for the information.

I did not know what DCNS was so I looked it up..

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She has now transitied the Straits of Gibraltor and is in the Mediterranean south of France.

She now has the Talwar Frigate Trikand, F51, the Replenishment vessel, Deepack, A50, and has picked up the Delhi, D61, destroyer. Of course along with herself, INS Virkamaditya, R33.

That link allows you to track her. If you zoom out at the link, you will also see the other vessels, and the coastlines once you get out far enough.

I noticed that Warship R33 has Flag Bhutan , and Warship A50 Flag Great Britain . What gives ?