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I believe the Tomcat/Phoenix combo could track and engage 6 targets simultaneously at over 100 miles, well beyond the range of anyone engaging the Tomcat.
navyreco
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Regarding why the AB turns on after launch with Rafale M and not Full AB on the deflectors before launch, I asked on a french forum with people serving in the French Navy:
- On Rafale M, the pilot has no input on the plane during the launch. Rafale launch procedure is 100% automatic through computer which automatically adjust thrust in function of weight, wind etc... The pilot only takes control of the Rafale a few seconds after it leaves the deck. (Actually, most pilots have hands off the stick and throttle on only grab them while in the air)
Off course this can be overridden (or again, if Rafale is heavy, computer automatically adjust thrust to full AB while still on catapult)
As you can seen on these videos:
Full AB Rafale while still on catapult at 5:50 and 6:00
And here also at 4:30
Because of Dick Cheney
- On Rafale M, the pilot has no input on the plane during the launch. Rafale launch procedure is 100% automatic through computer which automatically adjust thrust in function of weight, wind etc... The pilot only takes control of the Rafale a few seconds after it leaves the deck. (Actually, most pilots have hands off the stick and throttle on only grab them while in the air)
Off course this can be overridden (or again, if Rafale is heavy, computer automatically adjust thrust to full AB while still on catapult)
As you can seen on these videos:
Full AB Rafale while still on catapult at 5:50 and 6:00
And here also at 4:30
Because of Dick Cheney
Yes, Dirty Dick Cheney, and Rummey, and Gates, all enamored of the ground pounder mode, did in the Tomkat and the Raptor, not the brightest gentlemen in the Republican party, think Air Power is a rock band! Dummies
I use to call Rumsfeld Rummy the Dummy...Don't like any of those guys but...
Guys trust me on this.. The Tomcat was doomed when the Hornet hit the skies. The Hornet had a much higher reliability rate and less maintenance man-hours per-flights hours than the Tomcat ever could have. The F-18 is not a better fighter just more reliable.
I betcha if any one of you was ever a Mech(Jet engine mech), tweet(Avionics) or metalsmith (Airframe and hydraulics) in any Tomcat squadron you'd be singin' a different tune..
As for the Raptor..jeez it's still broken. Who knows.. maybe just maybe the zoomies will get it fixed.
MwRYum
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There maybe more "bug-lovers" if Top Gun was filmed with F/A-18 instead of F-14, but of course the public don't see it the way the professionals do...but if they love F-14 this much, they should join the Iranian camp because they still have a fleet of F-14 in service.
asif iqbal
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Iranians also got Phoenix missiles with thier F14 Tomcats, infact Iran tool delivery of around 1,000 AIM-54s before the 1979 revolution
they also had 140 F16s on order with a further opition of 160 to total 300 x F16s!!! None were delivered but they did get some ground equipment for the F16
can you believe that was in 1970s, massive order!! they also took so many Chinnoks, at the time Iran was just a mini superpower, they could get anything and everything from the Americans before Israel and before Japan
they also had 140 F16s on order with a further opition of 160 to total 300 x F16s!!! None were delivered but they did get some ground equipment for the F16
can you believe that was in 1970s, massive order!! they also took so many Chinnoks, at the time Iran was just a mini superpower, they could get anything and everything from the Americans before Israel and before Japan
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Iran was a trusted US ally in the 70s, and they had F-14s because they were trustworthy. When the Iranian Monarchy fell, Iran was the first middle eastern govt to go "banana republic", and that sad business is now in full swing in the formerly stable govts around the region. In any respect those Tomcats are a sad reminder of how that business has all turned out, there may be some that are "airworthy", but I doubt that any are "combat ready"?
I doubt if the Iranians have any AIM-54 Phoenix missiles left. And if they do they are in no condition to be fired. Those missiles have been in Iran for 32 years. What happens to missiles and rockets after a long storage is this. the rocket motors, which are a solid propellent, tend to crack. Those cracks cause the missile to explode before said missiles reach their target.
And another issue.. without the E-2 Hawkeye to help direct it the Tomcat is limited in performance of it's mission.
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A banana republic was a Middle American country effectively ruled by a banana company then called United Fruit and then domiciled in New Orleans. It was to a significant extent responsible for the replacement of the elected president of Guatemala by a military dictatorship in 1954. The local military were incompetent to organize a coup, so most work was done by some 5000 US Marines.
So it is difficult to compare Iran with a banana republic. You might perhaps have used the expression for Saudi Arabia when Aramco was not yet owned by that country, before 1973, but I consider that to be dubious.
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