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That presupposes that the deck can stand the heat. Is it designed to do that?
Before the Sea Harriers they used Hawker Seahawks, among them those bought second hand from West Germany.
That is the question, isn't it? We shall see.
But they are (the Hyugas) vey nice looking vessels and a heck of a ASW asset...not to mention humanitarian. The 22DDH and 24DDH will be just that much more capable. Still looking for consturction photos of the 22DDH.
And I would not be surprised to learn that the new vessels do have the heat tolerance...it also can be added later relatively easily. In addition, the lift capacity will be telling too. That even more so because they are a lot more expensive to fix if they are too light.
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asif iqbal
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Jeff I read that larger 22DDH will have a ski jump is true?
Having 2 x 22DDH and new 2 x 22DDH will add a unprecedented sea lift capability to Japan, together they could carry in excess of 100 helicopters of all sorts!!!
Having 2 x 22DDH and new 2 x 22DDH will add a unprecedented sea lift capability to Japan, together they could carry in excess of 100 helicopters of all sorts!!!
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cn_habs
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The Russian shipyard's top brass probably spent half of the money on hookers and vodka so he had to go to Alibaba.com himself before ordering the cheapest firebricks from some sketchy guy that makes them in his backyard.
The Russian shipyard's top brass probably spent half of the money on hookers and vodka so he had to go to Alibaba.com himself before ordering the cheapest firebricks from some sketchy guy that makes them in his backyard.
Not the most elegant way of putting it, but you got the jest of it right.
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Like Jeff Head said earlier, the blame game and "finger pointing begins.. and India is left holding the bag".
They have the two 16DDHs which are the Hyuga, 180, and the Ise, 181. They are building the 22DDH, which will be a single ship. I have not read, or heard anywhere that it will have a ski jump. In fact, the JMSDF continues to say that they do not "intend" to deploy fixed wing aircraft on it. But, depending on the deck and whether it can sustain the heat, and whether the elevators can carry them, that could all change very quickly.
If I were betting, I would say that the elevators will have the capacity (because without it, they have a major refit to make it work) and that the deck initially does not have it, but which is something they can treat after the fact relatively easily. We shall see.
Then, once the 22DDH is complete, my understanding is that they plan a single, even larger, 24DDH.
So you will have two Hyugas which have a full load displacement of 20,000 tons, you will have one 22DDH with a full load displacemnt of 27,000 tons, and then the 24DDH which I believe wil be 32,000-35,000 tons. Four large deck vessels, two of which (22DDH and 24DDH) I believe will utlimately be capable of embarking the JSF.
Time will tell.
Nice pic of two US carriers operating together this last week. This pic is for the benefit of PR. The two carrier groups are now several hundred miles apart, one in the East China Sea and one in the South China Sea doing a pincer exercise. Guess what area lies in the middle? Not a coincidence IMHO.
The Stennis will depart this week for the Persian Gulf.
USS George Washington and USS John C. Stennis off Guam recently
The Stennis will depart this week for the Persian Gulf.
USS George Washington and USS John C. Stennis off Guam recently
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