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navyreco

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At a time when the U.S. Navy is trying to enlarge its fleet on a tight budget, a series of foreign ships offer thoughtful ideas about how that can be done.

France’s Mistral amphibious assault and command ship is a good example. Now participating in the massive Bold Alligator amphibious exercise off America’s East Coast Jan. 30-Feb. 13, she combines the commercial construction and automation to pack enormous capability into a relatively small and affordable package.

Able to carry up to 650 troops, up to 90 vehicles and between 16 heavy and 35 light helicopters, she has a crew of just 170 and costs about $600 million.

It’s hard to compare her to any U.S. vessel. She carries slightly fewer troops than an LPD-17-class amphibious ship at a third the cost and half the crew, but has a flight deck and aviation capabilities more akin to a Wasp-class assault ship at a sixth the cost and crew size.

Every vessel is the result of tradeoffs. Time will tell whether France made the right choices in a ship that compromises robustness for capacity and efficiency.

What is clear, however, is Mistral has spent most of the past four years at sea on real world missions, most recently off Libya more efficiently and at less cost than older warship designs.

Overall, Mistral is an attractive package that U.S. officials should check out more closely
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bd popeye

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In case of "emergency" could a Harrier land on LPD-17 class or is the deck not strong enough ?

Of course. And it need not be an emergency.... The USN has photos of Harriers on LPDs.

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PACIFIC OCEAN (July 26, 2009) Sailors aboard the amphibious transport dock ship USS Cleveland (LPD 7) conduct flight operations with AV/8-B Harrier aircraft assigned to the Sea Elks of Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron (HMM) 166. Cleveland is assigned to the Bonhomme Richard Amphibious Readiness Group (ARG) and is underway conducting a Composite Training Unit Exercise in preparation for a scheduled deployment to the western Pacific Ocean later this year. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Grant P. Ammon/Released)
 

bd popeye

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Obi Wan or anyone.. can you give a better description of the pix below? What was the circumstance? They were posted by Ceriy of mp.net.

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HMS Liverpool escorting Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov
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Jeff Head

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Is this CH53 on Mistral or is it most likely USS WASP in front of Mistral (with the elevators sticking out on each sides) ?
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In my opinion the CH-53 is clearly on the vessel in front of the Mistral, the Wasp.

The Mistral is a good vessel with a lot of capability. I worry sometimes when things are not built fully to military specs in terms of their ability to take damage and be repaired at sea through damage control enough to keep fighting.

Right now there has been no large threat for that over the last many years since the fall of the Soviets...but that does not mean that ship to ship, or air to ship, or sub to ship attacks will not happen in the future.

Should that occur, we will find out if the commercial class building techniques hold up like the more expensive military ones...if they do not, the military ones may prove cheaper in the long run based on their ability to keep fighting and remain in service.
 

navyreco

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Just an awesome looking pic:
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120206-N-AP176-051 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Feb. 6, 2012) An SH-60B Sea Hawk helicopter and MV-22 Ospreys fly above the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) while a landing craft air cushion (LCAC) conducts operations in the water during exercise Bold Alligator 2012. Exercise Bold Alligator 2012, the largest naval amphibious exercise in the past 10 years, represents the Navy and Marine Corps' revitalization of the full range of amphibious operations. The exercise focuses on today's fight with today's forces, while showcasing the advantages of seabasing. This exercise will take place Jan. 30 through Feb. 12, 2012 afloat and ashore in and around Virginia and North Carolina. #BA12 (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jeff Atherton/Released)
 
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navyreco

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[video=youtube;cLLh7BzMCLk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLLh7BzMCLk&feature=youtu.be&list=PL9B884019B9F1CCE6[/video]
 
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