Afghanistan Military & News
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The goal should be to achieve nominal control with pliable tribal leaders in charge but managed by Pakistani backers. Afghanistan again colluding with India is a bigger threat to Pakistan long term than solving this problem properly.
If India attempts to use this opportunity to attack Pakistan, then Pakistan still has the tactical nuke threat. China will also not sit idle if Pakistan is attacked by India. So, they certainly should take the risk and solve the afghan problem in a long term manner.
@tamsen_ikard
It's laughable that you think that Pakistan should "conquer Afghanistan", considering the great bloodshed in the first phases of the war, then the attrition afterward --> all of that will result in huge costs for Pakistan, and the bloodshed from afghans will make the people more hostile which will lead to more operations against them, let alone that Pakistan itself will not be safe from operation done inside its territories...it'll be a complete lose that they'll gain nothing from.
Let alone the chance that the west & india will use against pakistan, even if the US doesn't like Taliban, they'll use these precedents later against Pakistan, and they can work with india to make the return of the old traitors to govern Afghanistan again and use it as a hub against Pakistan & China. Add their ability to use the International Institution to hurt pakistan for it, even if it comes late.
Pakistan & Afghanistan should cooperate to have the depth required to deter Western & Indian aggression, and that should be the only goal and strategy, not fighting and trying to "conquer" each other.
And I didn't even said anything about related islamic values here...
It's laughable that you think that Pakistan should "conquer Afghanistan", considering the great bloodshed in the first phases of the war, then the attrition afterward --> all of that will result in huge costs for Pakistan, and the bloodshed from afghans will make the people more hostile which will lead to more operations against them, let alone that Pakistan itself will not be safe from operation done inside its territories...it'll be a complete lose that they'll gain nothing from.
Let alone the chance that the west & india will use against pakistan, even if the US doesn't like Taliban, they'll use these precedents later against Pakistan, and they can work with india to make the return of the old traitors to govern Afghanistan again and use it as a hub against Pakistan & China. Add their ability to use the International Institution to hurt pakistan for it, even if it comes late.
Pakistan & Afghanistan should cooperate to have the depth required to deter Western & Indian aggression, and that should be the only goal and strategy, not fighting and trying to "conquer" each other.
And I didn't even said anything about related islamic values here...
Taliban has essentially allied with India against Pakistan. They have become the threat Pakistan has been fearing since the old soviet days. Pakistan essentially helped the Taliban to defeat the US with the hope that they will not allow Afghanistan to become a hub for India to operate and destabilize Pakistan.
But the Taliban has allied with extremely anti-Muslim BJP govt in India despite their own religious conservatism. This shows Taliban is no longer deserving to rule Afghanistan from Pakistan's perspective.
Let's not forget who kept Taliban alive during the both US and soviet occupation of Afghanistan. It was only due to Pakistan and ISI that the Taliban stays alive.
Pakistan has the golden opportunity to install fully pro-pakistan elements as governing body in Afghanistan. Both US under Trump hates the Taliban. And China also will not like Taliban colluding with India. This is a threat for China as well.
Overall, China and US both will help Pakistan finally finish the Taliban for good inside Afghanistan and install pro-Pakistan government.
Why would you harbor such thoughts?
Pakistan, fresh out of crisis, is already planning to annex its neighbor. This is not what a mature nation would do. Moreover, China would never allow such a thing to happen.
Are you trying to turn Pakistan into another Israel? Your imperialist thinking is a bit excessive.
Can pakistan first consider completely conquering itself? It is struggling to contain the violence from BLA and TTP in its own territory. If that can't be done, how is it feasible for Pakistan to enter Afghanistan proper? Taliban currently still possesses (at the common infantryman level) more advanced weaponry than the Pakistani army itself.
Classic Pakistan. Standards of living are in bottom of the barrel, GDP growth is pitiful, HDI is comparable to the least countries in the world and its middle class is day dreaming about being a superpower. Every stereotype that China has of India basically represents Pakistan more than India.
hey, make sure we are not confusing the fantasies of a forum poster for actual pakistani strategy
That's why I said, only a complete Pakistani vassal governing Afghanistan should be the goal for Pakistan. That is what having strategic depth looks like. An Afghanistan that is neutralized and no longer a threat. It could be Pakistan actively ruling Afghanistan, or supporting proxies that rule it for them or break Afghanistan into pieces so that they are fighting each other rather than fighting Pakistan.
The status quo of Afghanistan constantly threatening Pakistan is no longer viable. They need a permanent solution.