AEGIS and AEGIS Like escort combatants of the World

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
dumb question: what are
"3 cell's for a crane"?
The original development of the MK 41 Vertical Launch System (VLS) for US Navy cruisers and destroyers in the late 1970’s included a requirement to replenish ten VLS canisters per hour, day or night in Sea State 5 conditions.

The system installed consisted of a rig to transfer the VLS canister to the missile ship during UNREP (RAS); then deck handling the canister to a position where a crane could tilt up the canister over an empty cell and then lower the canister down into the cell. The crane itself was a commercial Swedish folding crane. It took three VLS cells to make room for the crane. An internal elevator raised or lowered the crane.

In actual use, the crane did not have the capacity to lift Tomahawk VLS canisters. They came later and were too heavy. In addition, in actual use, the crane was never able to reload more than three cells per hour, and was only able to do so up to Sea State 3 conditions. So the requirement was never met. In war time, for a 64 cell VLS, it would take over 20 hours to reload...meaning a DDG and a UNREP ship had to be alongside one another in an exposed condition for that long.

So, although all Burke I and II destroyers received it, and Ticonderoga cruisers, the process was discontinued because it was viewed that in light of the deficiencies, six additional missiles at sea ready to fire was more important. So, beginning with the Flight IIA Burke destroyers it was discontinued.

Here is a rare picture of a crane being used at sea to reload a canister.

VLS-Crane.jpg
 
Last edited:

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
The original development of the MK 41 Vertical Launch System (VLS) for US Navy cruisers and destroyers in the late 1970’s included a requirement to replenish ten VLS canisters per hour, day or night in Sea State 5 conditions.

The system installed consisted of a rig to transfer the VLS canister to the missile ship during UNREP (RAS); then deck handling the canister to a position where a crane could tilt up the canister over an empty cell and then lower the canister down into the cell. The crane itself was a commercial Swedish folding crane. It took three VLS cells to make room for the crane. An internal elevator raised or lowered the crane.

In actual use, the crane did not have the capacity to lift Tomahawk VLS canisters. They came later and were too heavy. In addition, in actual use, the crane was never able to reload more than three cells per hour, and was only able to do so up to Sea State 3 conditions. So the requirement was never met. In war time, for a 64 cell VLS, it would take over 20 hours to reload...meaning a DDG and a UNREP ship had to be alongside one another in an exposed condition for that long.

So, although all Burke I and II destroyers received it, and Ticonderoga cruisers, the process was discontinued because it was viewed that in light of the deficiencies, six additional missiles at sea ready to fire was more important. So, beginning with the Flight IIA Burke destroyers it was discontinued.

Here is a rare picture of a crane being used at sea to reload a canister.

View attachment 25112

Tomahawk is more long and big as SM-2MR 6.5 m x 0, 52 m which do 4.7 m x 0.34
It existed before SM-2ER with a more long range as SM-2MR 180 km vs 120 but clearly more large mainly too long 8 m ! can' t fit in Mk-41* used only by others US MSC with launchers with arms especially Mk-26.

MK 41 strike version the more big have cell of 7.7 m long exist 2 others more small : tactical and self defense versions 6.8 m and 5.3 m but all have a diameter of 0.63 cm for a cell.
Misilles packed in 6 canister variants one for each missile type.

SM-3 and SM-6 ~ 6.5 m x 0.53 m.

The 28 Burke Fl I/II are ABM ships with radar and electronic modernized nothing Fl IIA/Austin and 5 Ticonderoga on 22 : Shiloh, Port Royal, Lake Erie, Monterey, Vela Gulf.

84 : 22 Ticondroga and 62 Burke homeported to

Norfolk : 26 : 5/21
Mayport : 7 : 4/3
Rota : 4 : 0/4
San Diego : 22 : 7/15
Everett : 2 : 0/2
Pearl Harbor : 12 : 3/9
Yokosuka : 11: 3/8

Atlantic : 37 : 9/28
Pacific : 47 : 13/34
 
Last edited by a moderator:

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Now Ticonderoga 22 in service first 5 retired has Mk-26 laucher with arm replaced in part by Burke Fl III but navy get plans for new CG in ~ 2025 maybe the hull of the Zumwalt can be an idea, with only a gun definitely get easy 120 cell's for VLS and AEGIS also, Zumwalt is not an AEGIS ship.

Ticonderoga have hull of Spruance a good hull fine enough for high speeds but they have more important superstructures especialy for host PESA radars and with this additional weight they had problems with cracks then solved.

Armament difference with Burke 1 big gun and 32 to 34 missiles ( minimum depends ESSM quadpacked also ) in more, hangar for 2 ASW helos, Burke Fl I/II don' t have.

USA Ticonderoga détaillé.jpg
 
Last edited:

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


DDG-39.jpg

Naval Today said:
Royal Australian Navy’s first Aegis-equipped Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD), HMAS Hobart, has begun integration and testing of the installed combat system.

Testing will be facilitated by Lockheed Martin engineers and technicians who are responsible for testing the Aegis Combat System to ensure the equipment is properly installed and functional.

A computer-based command and decision element forms the core of the AEGIS combat system. This interface, according to the US Navy, makes the AEGIS combat system capable of simultaneous operations against multi-mission threats: anti-air, anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare.

The Hobart-class destroyers are being built under Australia’s SEA 4000 program, which will ultimately deliver three advanced multirole ships. These ships will be Australia’s first ships to be equipped with Lockheed Martin’s Aegis Weapon System including the SPY-1D(V) radar.

The RAN has received the Lockheed Martin Aegis Baseline 8 configuration, which integrates commercial technology and open architecture into the combat system.

Commodore Craig Bourke, CSC, RAN Program Manager Air Warfare Destroyer, said: “This milestone is a significant step towards an increase in the Royal Australian Navy’s maritime security capabilities through the seamless integration of the Aegis combat system to defend against advanced air, surface and subsurface threats.

“With more than 100 Aegis-equipped ships deployed worldwide, Australia is joining a family of allied nations that continues to push the boundaries of innovation with adaptable and affordable capabilities that meet the warfighter’s multi-mission needs.”
 
Top