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Ultra

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aksha said:
No wings (makes it harder to shoot down as winged missiles plunge into water after suffering wing damage)
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BrahMos doesn't have wings?

In the same article they show it right here:
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They probably meant they don't rely on wings for gliding - they still use wings for stabilization. Damaging the wings will damage its aerodynamic stability and likely to make it plunge into the sea anyway.

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Ultra, don't even go there with the sexual innuendo.

Otherwise, it was a good post.

SD is not a place that gives root to such sexual implications in out professional military discussions. There are plenty of other site where that can go on...not here.

We try and nip this stuff in the bud. The rules make this pretty clear.

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Here are some new pictures of Australia's Hobart class of AEGIS destroyers, currently under construction.

They will be very similar to the Spanish Bazan AEGIS frigates, but displace more, have more powerful engines, and some other upgrades and differences.


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A close up of the main gun and bridge of HMSA Hobart, D42

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Hobart's port side, with HMAS Brisbane, D43, behind her

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A good look at Brisbane, under construction directly behind Hobart.

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Good view of Brisbane and Hobart together under construction

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Good view of HMAS Hobart, D42, under construction
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HMAS Hobart D-42, is now scheduled to enter service in March 2016. HMAS Brisbane D-43 will enter service in September 2017, and HMAS Sydney D-44 in March 2019.
 
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A friend of mine, who was a surface warfare officer in the US Navy, and who served on three separate classes of US Navy destroyers, including the Burke at the end, said something about the Burke Destroyers that I wanted to share.

"I've often said that the Burkes look like they're at flank speed while tied to a pier. Which, I believe, is the only way for a destroyer to look."

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This reminded me of a famous quote, which I think also can apply:

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." John Paul Jones

Carry on!
 
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Navy's Next Destroyer Line Christened Visakhapatnam-class, 1st Launch Next Week
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The first Project 15 Bravo (P15B) stealth destroyer, under construction at the Mazagon Dock shipyard in Mumbai will be launched on April 20. Livefist can confirm that the new warship line has a name: Visakhapatnam-class, after the Navy's eastern hub. The navy is aiming to induct the ship in 2018. A total of four ships are to be built in the class, with the official timeline of deliveries starting 2018, and then a ship every two years till 2024. The Visakhapatnam's keel was laid in October 2013. Construction and fabrication of the second vessel of the class began in July last year.

The Visakhapatnam-class maintains the same hull and propulsion package as the Project 15A Kolkata-class. Russia's Northern Design Bureau, enlisted as a design consultant has helped reduce the size of the design's superstructure.

Meanwhile, the second P15A destroyer Kochi will be commissioned shortly into the Indian Navy.
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So about a year and a half from keel laying to launch? That's quite good time, certainly better than the average of 3-4 years from keel laying to launch for the three P15As.

I suppose the big question now will be how long it takes from launch to sea trials, AKA fitting out, as fitting out the subsystems were the longest delays for P15As. Hopefully they've learned a thing or two about managing subsystems and subcontractors from the P15A programme.
 
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Bltizo said:
So about a year and a half from keel laying to launch? That's quite good time, certainly better than the average of 3-4 years from keel laying to launch for the three P15As.

I suppose the big question now will be how long it takes from launch to sea trials, AKA fitting out, as fitting out the subsystems were the longest delays for P15As.
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This 15B program looks pretty promising.

They will launch this first one this year in 2015 and they expect to commission it in 2018. So they themselves are giving it three years.

Most countries end up doing so in two...but with a new class also can take three.

The 15B hull and propulsion and basic systems are very similar to the 15A so I would have thought 24 months...but if they can do so in 36, they will have made significant improvement over what happened with the 15A.

Ending up with three 15As and four 15Bs will be a significant enhancement to their S2A capabilites for area coverage for those carriers.
 
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Yeah, it says subsequent ships will enter service once every two years; is that because their shipyard can only fabricate one hull at a time?
I'd be interested to know what kind of armament P15B has... P15A, despite its impressive 16 Brahmos missiles, is still only limited to x32 70km range Barak 8 SAMs. It's a modern, capable missile, but they are a bit on the light side in both number and range compared to the air defence ships of most other modern navies.
 
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Bltizo said:
Yeah, it says subsequent ships will enter service once every two years; is that because their shipyard can only fabricate one hull at a time?
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Well, we saw them build two of the Project 15B, Kolkata's as once there. I have to believe they could if they wanted.


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I'd be interested to know what kind of armament P15B has... P15A, despite its impressive 16 Brahmos missiles, is still only limited to x32 70km range Barak 8 SAMs. It's a modern, capable missile, but they are a bit on the light side in both number and range compared to the air defence ships of most other modern navies.
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Well, I too believe that the 32 VLS for the Barak-8 is understrength. Originally they had talked about 64...and when you look at those A2A VLS cells, there seems to be to be enough room fore and aft to do it.


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Oh well, 32 Barak 8 is far better in terms of area coverage than they have had before, and with four of the Project 15B, or Visakhapatnam class, I believe they will get there.

As to Project 15B, or Visakhapatnam class, I believe they will have 64 cells. They are doing some more stealth work on the hull, making the decks flush and what not, and they are definitely going to have the Barak 8-ER with longer range.

The best image/model of the Project 15B, Visakhapatnam class, I have seen it this:


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Well, I too believe that the 32 VLS for the Barak-8 is understrength. Originally they had talked about 64...
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With Barak 1, however we have thought that a ship of this size carry 48 Barak-8 on 64 SAM.
 
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