707 and 891 aircraft carrier projects

Gollevainen

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Snake, I don't have no idea. I tried to find out about the one which I posted in the first thread. It is apparently on some institute's wall as a sort of cheering-up poster for the future of PLAN during the 80's under the "four modernisations". Too bad there is so little info on any chinese canceled naval projects. Unlike the aircrafts which are actually quite well documented, the sparse info on these two carrier projects are pretty much all there is...
 

Gollevainen

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Here is the watermodel that I mentioned earlier
 

proelite

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@siegecrossbow This project was covered recently on CCTV recently.

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It looks like it was supposed to be a 50,000-tonne medium CATOBAR. The starboard cat is placed in a suboptimal location, taking up precious parking space. This is obviously a first serious study at CATOBAR from the PLAN.

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proelite

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Hello

Long time for me to post anything here but I wanted to share something that I've have digged up from the depths of chinese internet lately: The 707 and 891 aircraft carrier projects. (I also posted this thread on the rival china defense forum)

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The first one 707 dates back to 1970, for a 30,000t carrier, to be laid down in 1980 and delivered in 1985. Not much additional information is given but the project was deemed too difficoult for chinese at the time and it was decided to focus on the nuclear submarines and Luda class destroyers developted at the same time instead. The sites gives images for the projects, but they are just US Essex class, Midway class or layout drawing of early post-war fleet carrier design.

Information about the project 891 is equally sparse but its dated in 1989 and was to be a 40,000t design. Alongside it, its mentioned that navalized variant of J-7 fighters were initially planned for the ship to be followed by naval variant of the J-13 (propaply the famous 'SAC naval fighter' design). This project also did not materialized for the obvious reasons.

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Here is an atricle about the navalized J-13 program.

Also I digged up my own vaults and wondered if this obscure painting of an old chinese aircraft carrier is anyway related to either of the designs? After some additional research, it apparently was a painting on some institute's wall descriping the future of PLAN during the 80's. There is also a similar style painting which features Soviet pr.1143 Kiev class carrier in chinese service.
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This painting seems to be an early version of the project. The video I linked earlier shows a more modern island.
 

proelite

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Some problems that I can see from the deck layout is that the foredeck is too narrow even for a single catapult. If the starboard catapult is in use, deck parking would be greatly reduced. Even moving the starboard catapult to port like on the CdG would still impact parking on the foredeck.
 
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