2026 Iran War Strategy and Analysis

PandaAI

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How is the strike on Lebanon related to the ceasefire? Israel could have done it without any ceasefire and it would be the same that Iran has never stopped hitting Israel with missiles for any ceasefire. And what did the strike on Lebanon achieve strategically? It seems to be completely on civilian targets so it's not like it took out a bunch of Hezbollah by surprise. Probably made more Lebanese want to join Hezbollah. The fight is still on just like without any ceasefire and also, I heard it was China that nudged it, not some reformists. I've a lot more faith in that.

Lebanon was supposed to be part of the ceasefire but they are getting destroyed and now they’ve been abandoned.

Now many people are angry at China because they think China capitulated to Trump’s threats and pressured Iran to negotiate.

Why is China giving the US an out from its quagmire?
 

another505

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Lebanon was supposed to be part of the ceasefire but they are getting destroyed and now they’ve been abandoned.

Now many people are angry at China because they think China capitulated to Trump’s threats and pressured Iran to negotiate.

Why is China giving the US an out from its quagmire?

Abandoned? Iran just said they will attack Israel till they regret. The ceasefire was so short that it is almost same timeframe between iranian salvo to israel.
 

Friendly

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Lebanon was supposed to be part of the ceasefire but they are getting destroyed and now they’ve been abandoned.

Now many people are angry at China because they think China capitulated to Trump’s threats and pressured Iran to negotiate.

Why is China giving the US an out from its quagmire?
China is partially involved, not fully, as is appropriate. There are two considerations:
  • China & US are competitors, is the US going to humiliate itself by surrendering to China?
  • US is not directly attacking China, does China need to show its hand more than it just did?
So there can be no direct negotiation. Through Pakistan, several countries are pressuring the US & Iran to negotiate. This includes China, Russia, Turkey, GCC, Egpyt, and so on. It's a lot, since Hormuz affects the entire planet.

Lebanon will be made part, eventually, this depends on how and when Israel can be stopped. They obviously want to spoil things, and might succeed for a little bit. But, the overall situation will not change. In fact, the longer this drags, both Iran & US risk losing.

Remember, when two fight, it's not necessary for there to be a winner and a loser. someone
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can win.

At the end of 2024, Iran & to some extent Russia suffered a strategic defeat in Syria. It looks like the US & to some extent Israel are heading the same way.
 

Rank Amateur

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Of course, this was stated by others before me. But let me repeat it again. 9th point of the purported ceasefire asserts that the USA withdraws all its military from the middle east. That won't happen, period. What could may very well happen, though, is the American and Israeli air forces get required maintenance, supplies and strike again with greater Force. Iran has lost and pathetically calls it a victory. They should have done a preemptive strike 2 months ago to level the situation. But I think Iranian establishment is so infiltrated by the American and Israeli Intel agencies that Iran can't make a decision which limits powers of the USA and Israel. How has the new president survived the assassinations when he was walking freely in Tehran and all others sitting, hiding in bunkers got busted? Iran has failed in counterintelligence business. Objectively speaking, Iran should have taken care of the counterintelligence affairs years ago. They didn't, so they pay a heavy price now. I am personally on the American and Israeli side. So, Iranian defeat is ok with me. I just hate higher oil prices.

"I am personally on the American and Israeli side. So, Iranian defeat is ok with me."

Wow, quelle surprise.
 

Friendly

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Ofcourse personally I think negotiations are BS but if negotiations/ceasefire does happen then Pakistan is not a reliable mediator. Heck any random western European country except Britain would probably be a better mediator.
Pakistan is the only possible and trustworthy mediator right now. Who in Europe is credible to the Iranians? Pakistan has China and Turkey supporting it, and can bring at least part of the GCC along since the Saudi defense pact.
 

protonme18

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Trump and Nentayahu trying to get 45 days "ceasefire" windows for restocking ammunition. Firing tomahawks, jdam, also navy ships do need re-armament since they are out at sea. Also land interceptors.....They couldn't get that, Pakistanis tried 14 days, maybe they are idiots and Trump take it.....it's a breather for restocking. When you look at Vietnam war, Afghanistan war....there's no such thing as ceasefire...you fight until the Invaders runs away tail between your legs. Bombs still falling in Saigon when US runs away and causing large migration of Southern Vietnamese Refugees.....similar thing happens in Kabul airport
 

protonme18

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Do you all understand ramifications of US backing down in this fight. The lost of petrodollar, the lost of control of middle east, the lost of control American imperial nail inside Eurasian mass from World Theory. No, American power wants to give this up easily, not Trump. So keep on fighting, that little Cuba of Israel is doing everything it can to keep Americans in the skin.

The World Island: This combines Eurasia and Africa. The core argument is: "Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland; Who rules the Heartland commands the World Island; Who rules the World Island commands the world".
 

Friendly

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Trump and Nentayahu trying to get 45 days "ceasefire" windows for restocking ammunition. Firing tomahawks, jdam, also navy ships do need re-armament since they are out at sea. Also land interceptors.....They couldn't get that, Pakistanis tried 14 days, maybe they are idiots and Trump take it.....it's a breather for restocking. When you look at Vietnam war, Afghanistan war....there's no such thing as ceasefire...you fight until the Invaders runs away tail between your legs. Bombs still falling in Saigon when US runs away and causing large migration of Southern Vietnamese Refugees.....similar thing happens in Kabul airport
both China and the Soviet Union supported Vietnam, where the US had over 500,000 troops by the middle of the war. Same on a much smaller scale with the Afghans, where Pakistan supported an insurgency, and the US had troops all over the place.

Iran is not like that. The US is mainly sticking to the air and some raids. There is no massive ground invasion yet. Iran also gets to restock and breathe. This mostly looks like a slow decline of the US, not a decisive defeat.

The US might crumble if they go with a ground invasion, since that invites everyone, from China & Russia all the way to Afghan tribal militias to support Iran.
 
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tokenanalyst

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Of course, this was stated by others before me. But let me repeat it again. 9th point of the purported ceasefire asserts that the USA withdraws all its military from the middle east. That won't happen, period. What could may very well happen, though, is the American and Israeli air forces get required maintenance, supplies and strike again with greater Force. Iran has lost and pathetically calls it a victory. They should have done a preemptive strike 2 months ago to level the situation. But I think Iranian establishment is so infiltrated by the American and Israeli Intel agencies that Iran can't make a decision which limits powers of the USA and Israel. How has the new president survived the assassinations when he was walking freely in Tehran and all others sitting, hiding in bunkers got busted? Iran has failed in counterintelligence business. Objectively speaking, Iran should have taken care of the counterintelligence affairs years ago. They didn't, so they pay a heavy price now. I am personally on the American and Israeli side. So, Iranian defeat is ok with me. I just hate higher oil prices.
I don't bout Israel because they are sucking the hell out of the tits of the US, I mean, Is not milk that is coming out anymore, is blood.

But the US is going to bleed themselves in that conflict if this continue for too long. The options they have are going from bad to worse to suicidal.
 
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