2026 Iran War Strategy and Analysis

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obj 705A said:
this is a strategic mistake from Iran. the US has no control over the war. it is Israel that decides what Trump's policies are. are we supposed to believe Israel gave up on a greater Israel? Israel wants to expand. they want a greater Israel, this means the war on Lebanon will continue. and the war with Iran will restart once the US restocks on interceptors.
fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me and now this the third time Iran was fooled into negotiations. I guess Trump's veiled threat of fully nuking 90 million Iranians out of existance when he said he could kill an entire civilisation tonight caused the Iranians to chicken out. it isn't Trump that TACOed. this time it was the Iranians that TACOed out of this but for Iran they won't be allowed to chicken out forever since the war will start.
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Only if Iran reopens Hormuz during these 2 weeks blindly, meaning without any proportional, immediate concession in return, would they be stupid.

Falling for Trump's empty promises about the 10-point proposal that COULD happen, knowing how primitive he is as a negotiator, is not good.
 
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Serb said:
Only if Iran reopens Hormuz during these 2 weeks blindly, meaning without any proportional, immediate concession in return, would they be stupid.

Falling for Trump's empty promises about the 10-point proposal that COULD happen, knowing how primitive he is as a negotiator, is not good.
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Iranian FM has mentioned that ships will need to coordinate with Iran so they clearly still have the control:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2041655156215799821
 
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I don't know what the Iranians are smoking but they seem to absolutely believe the US and Israel now want full scale peace in the mid east.

Iran's National Security Council: We achieved victory and forced Washington to accept our proposal.

Negotiations are scheduled to take place in Islamabad to finalize the details of ending the war.

We have achieved a great victory and forced the United States to accept our 10-point proposal.

The agreement stipulates passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with Iranian forces.

The agreement stipulates the necessity of ending the war against all elements of the Resistance Axis.

The agreement stipulates the withdrawal of US forces from all bases in the region.

The agreement stipulates the payment of full compensation to Iran.

The agreement stipulates the lifting of all sanctions and the release of frozen Iranian assets abroad.

The negotiations will begin on Friday in Islamabad amidst complete distrust of the American side.

Our proposal stipulates the lifting of all sanctions and the release of frozen Iranian assets abroad.

The Iranian points stipulate the withdrawal of US forces from all bases in the region.

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neutralobserver said:
Iranian FM has mentioned that ships will need to coordinate with Iran so they clearly still have the control:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2041655156215799821
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Didn't see this. But that still doesn't mean anything. Opening Hormuz = giving air to Western economies.

Even if it's framed as Iran being in control of the whole process, it's not good.

Maybe if some toll system accompanies it, under the US formalization, it's good.

If not, then Iran fell for the same trick for the third time.

I get they are eager to get the US full capitulation...

But how can they just believe the words of those primitive people currently running the US? We shall see...
 
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vincent said:
The US will use the two weeks to gather its forces without having to worry about getting attacked in the staging areas.

Iran made a stupid move.
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What is worse is that this time, continuing war and escalating with the US is SUPPORTED by the majority of people in Iran.

Unlike during the previous peace-time negoations when many of the people still bought into Western propaganda partially.
 
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obj 705A said:
I don't know what the Iranians are smoking but they seem to absolutely believe the US and Israel now want full scale peace in the mid east.

Iran's National Security Council: We achieved victory and forced Washington to accept our proposal.
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Agree, Iran misunderstood this big time. Totally retarded the whole ceasefire.

Look at this table here:

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It doesn't exactly look like someone who wants peace. U.S. regime has all these military assets nearby, under the section called "Number of assets deployed in Iran war".

Like I pointed out, soon George H.W. Bush will be there as well, and apparently, T. Roosevelt has finally finished its maintenance, so it is training of the coast of San Diego, and preparing for deployment to a location not yet publicly disclosed, it says.

So that means, possibly up to 3, but definitely very soon 2 mother-F + Boxer and Tripoli, for a total of 4 carriers / LHA / LHD, with possibly 5 eventually if T. Roosevelt joins.
 
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I don’t see how Iran agreeing to a ceasefire would be a loss. Can the U.S. really muster ground forces capable of launching an invasion in a matter of weeks? Could the U.S. produce enough ammunition in such a short time to tip the balance of power in its favor?
 
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obj 705A said:
I don't know what the Iranians are smoking but they seem to absolutely believe the US and Israel now want full scale peace in the mid east.

Iran's National Security Council: We achieved victory and forced Washington to accept our proposal.

Negotiations are scheduled to take place in Islamabad to finalize the details of ending the war.

We have achieved a great victory and forced the United States to accept our 10-point proposal.

The agreement stipulates passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with Iranian forces.

The agreement stipulates the necessity of ending the war against all elements of the Resistance Axis.

The agreement stipulates the withdrawal of US forces from all bases in the region.

The agreement stipulates the payment of full compensation to Iran.

The agreement stipulates the lifting of all sanctions and the release of frozen Iranian assets abroad.

The negotiations will begin on Friday in Islamabad amidst complete distrust of the American side.

Our proposal stipulates the lifting of all sanctions and the release of frozen Iranian assets abroad.

The Iranian points stipulate the withdrawal of US forces from all bases in the region.

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All of these agreements points to a US surrender and failed in all of its objectives. I don't think US wants to surrender at this point. The conflict will resume in 2 weeks.

Also, per Pakistan sources, Iran had told Pakistan that they had 15k missiles and 40k drones still had yet to be used.

"Could the U.S. produce enough ammunition in such a short time to tip the balance of power in its favor?"

Not tomahawk missiles and cruise missiles. Other perhaps.
 
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Serb said:
Only if Iran reopens Hormuz during these 2 weeks blindly, meaning without any proportional, immediate concession in return, would they be stupid.

Falling for Trump's empty promises about the 10-point proposal that COULD happen, knowing how primitive he is as a negotiator, is not good.
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Except Hormuz isn't closed? Ships are already transiting by paying the toll and coordinating with Iranian military, which is what Iran said they'll continue to do, and what said they'll always do from now on. Framing it as some sort of Hormuz opening is an American face saving wording but Iranian sovereignty over ME energy is both current and future reality.

Israel also isn't part of any of this, Iran also just fired more missiles at Israel, so the war is still on, AD inventory are still being depleted.

I honestly didn't think US will ever even suggest they'd accept the 10 point demand for basically unconditional surrender and acknowledgement of Iranian annexation of Persian Gulf. US tapping out with Iranian in control of global energy AND Isarel continuing to get bombed is a pretty big W no matter how you try to spin it.

And obviously US will try to attack Iran again, the 1st point of the 10 point demand was never doable, but neither has Iran agreed to any ceasefire against Israel, it's a tactical reshuffling where Israel gets left to fight by themselves.
 
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