2026 Iran War Strategy and Analysis

tamsen_ikard

Captain
Registered Member
That's the problem, just because Hezbollah is an ally of Iran, doesn't mean it is acceptable for Iran to use the strait of Hormuz. Remember, the strait of Hormuz does not only effect the US. It effects everybody.

Hezbollah is a proxy. If they really were so important to Iran, they should fly them back to Iran for safety. But the problem is that their only use for Iran is to attack Israel. Which makes their existence/relationship with Iran purely offensive. If iran wanted to protect Hezbollah, it's fine, just sent your army to help, go undercover, like the other proxy battles. But using the strait of Hormuz? It isn't going to be taken well.

Iran can help Hezbollah, but they need to do that themselves. Using the strait of hormuz to try to settle the Lebannon issue is unreasonable. If Iran wants to have Hezbollah as a roxy they have to earn it themselves. The strait of Hormuz is not a magical lamp that gives you anything you want.

A second shutdown of the Strait of Hormuz will not be blamed on the USA or on Israel. It will be blamed on Iran.
I hope you go ahead and blame Iran. And do whatever you have to do. Lets see what else you can come up with. If more Bombs fall on Iran, They will destroy Gulf Arab oil infrastacture and destroy world oil capacity permanently. We will see how "The world" survives without Gulf oil permanently.
 

Black Wolf

Junior Member
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That's the problem, just because Hezbollah is an ally of Iran, doesn't mean it is acceptable for Iran to use the strait of Hormuz. Remember, the strait of Hormuz does not only effect the US. It effects everybody.

Hezbollah is a proxy. If they really were so important to Iran, they should fly them back to Iran for safety. But the problem is that their only use for Iran is to attack Israel. Which makes their existence/relationship with Iran purely offensive. If iran wanted to protect Hezbollah, it's fine, just sent your army to help, go undercover, like the other proxy battles. But using the strait of Hormuz? It isn't going to be taken well.

Iran can help Hezbollah, but they need to do that themselves. Using the strait of hormuz to try to settle the Lebannon issue is unreasonable. If Iran wants to have Hezbollah as a roxy they have to earn it themselves. The strait of Hormuz is not a magical lamp that gives you anything you want.

A second shutdown of the Strait of Hormuz will not be blamed on the USA or on Israel. It will be blamed on Iran.

And what about Isreal, who will leash Netanyahu & Isreal....


I hope you go ahead and blame Iran. And do whatever you have to do. Lets see what else you can come up with. If more Bombs fall on Iran, They will destroy Gulf Arab oil infrastacture and destroy world oil capacity permanently. We will see how "The world" survives without Gulf oil permanently.

Plus, they'll hit Isreal again, remember the stockpile is already depleted, how long Isreal can sustain the Iranian Missile & drone attacks....
 

MortyandRick

Senior Member
Registered Member
That's the problem, just because Hezbollah is an ally of Iran, doesn't mean it is acceptable for Iran to use the strait of Hormuz. Remember, the strait of Hormuz does not only effect the US. It effects everybody.

Hezbollah is a proxy. If they really were so important to Iran, they should fly them back to Iran for safety. But the problem is that their only use for Iran is to attack Israel. Which makes their existence/relationship with Iran purely offensive. If iran wanted to protect Hezbollah, it's fine, just sent your army to help, go undercover, like the other proxy battles. But using the strait of Hormuz? It isn't going to be taken well.

Iran can help Hezbollah, but they need to do that themselves. Using the strait of hormuz to try to settle the Lebannon issue is unreasonable. If Iran wants to have Hezbollah as a roxy they have to earn it themselves. The strait of Hormuz is not a magical lamp that gives you anything you want.

A second shutdown of the Strait of Hormuz will not be blamed on the USA or on Israel. It will be blamed on Iran.
No. This is still blamed on the US and Israel.

The MOU was clear, Israel leave Southern Lebanon.

If the US could not deliver that, why put it in the text?

You blaming Iran for closing the strait again, but where's your blame if Israel and US as Israel continued to attacks and destroy Southern Lebanon.

If Iran did not close the strait in the face of continued Israel aggression, then what if the US starts to salami slice other parts of the deal? It's a slippery slope. They are right to stand their ground. Pretty sure most other counties would still blame the US and Israel for starting this in the first place.
 

Africablack

Junior Member
Registered Member
Problem for Iran now is that any further strait closing actually annoys the rest of the world too. The first closing was justified, as the US started it by bombing Iran. But any further closings of the strait need to be properly justified. Lebannon alone as a cause is insufficient, and as it is going, Iran is rapidly consuming the credibility they gained in the past few months.
They are not consuming any credibility, much of the world is watching a middle power stand up to a mad man and secretly cheering them on.
 

mat

New Member
Registered Member
No. This is still blamed on the US and Israel.

The MOU was clear, Israel leave Southern Lebanon.

If the US could not deliver that, why put it in the text?

You blaming Iran for closing the strait again, but where's your blame if Israel and US as Israel continued to attacks and destroy Southern Lebanon.

If Iran did not close the strait in the face of continued Israel aggression, then what if the US starts to salami slice other parts of the deal? It's a slippery slope. They are right to stand their ground. Pretty sure most other counties would still blame the US and Israel for starting this in the first place.
Yep, they are making a weird argument. Violating any part of the MOU invalidates the entire MOU. Apparently, some people expect Iran to just sit and take it while the US and Isreal selami slice the deal.

Also, there is another reason why Iran is insisting Lebanon is part of the deal (in addition to their support of Hezb). They want to make sure the US is serious about a deal and can put the leash on Israel. Otherwise the entire MOU or any future agreement is not worth the paper it is written on.
 

sheogorath

Colonel
Registered Member
That's the problem, just because Hezbollah is an ally of Iran, doesn't mean it is acceptable for Iran to use the strait of Hormuz. Remember, the strait of Hormuz does not only effect the US. It effects everybody.
Then should have thought about that when they decided to attack Iran, ignoring every war game and strategist that said that, indeed, Iran could and would close the Strait in the event of war and would have dire consequences for everybody.

Also its everybody's fault, or at least everybody in the west, for not putting a leash on the US and Israel instead bending over to their every whim.
Hezbollah is a proxy. If they really were so important to Iran, they should fly them back to Iran for safety. But the problem is that their only use for Iran is to attack Israel.
So is Israel, a western proxy to keep control and attack every country in the region and as a bulwark against communism and pan-arabism back in the days of the Cold War.

Also completely ignores the fact that Hezbollah was created in response to Israel unwarranted invasion of Lebanon in 1982, and back then had nothing to do with Iran who was still sorting itself after the Revolution and the invasion by Iraq at the behest of the West. Are you going to blame a non-existant Hezbollah for that one too?

Hell, even Reagan was lucid long enough to threaten Israel to fuck off or face an full blown embargo but you people can't even do that because you don't want to hurt their feesfees(and also force them to reveal how all your leaders you keep voting for are pedophiles and rapists)

Which makes their existence/relationship with Iran purely offensive
Just like Israel's relationship with the West but you seem to have less of a problem with that one.

That the west has let their own golem grab them by the balls is not Iran fault's and they have the right to defend themselves and since preemptive attacks now count as defense, then take Iran's support for Hezbollah as a defensive position against Israel constant agression in the region.
 

FriedButter

Brigadier
Registered Member
Iran can help Hezbollah, but they need to do that themselves. Using the strait of hormuz to try to settle the Lebannon issue is unreasonable. If Iran wants to have Hezbollah as a roxy they have to earn it themselves. The strait of Hormuz is not a magical lamp that gives you anything you want.

You do realize that this is also a test to gauge your willingness and trustworthiness. The US insists that they control Israel and any Israeli actions will be seem as the US giving approval. If you refuse to fulfill your MOU obligations then it inevitably puts your sincerity of any final agreement into question.

Why do you think the MOU was structured this way by the Iranians. The Americans and Israelis used the last vague agreement to grant themselves the ability to use any military actions while the Iranians were constrained by the deal. No loopholes will be permitted this time. Your verbal words alone are not trustworthy anymore.
 

Black Wolf

Junior Member
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For some to present the historical perspective...

Images frequently speak for themselves. In the image below, a banner with the words "The German destroyed our families" is visible. When they arrived in Palestine in early 1945, they said, "Please don't destroy our hopes."

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And the irony is that "Palestine embraced Jewish Refugees with OPEN Armes while they received Genocide & became Refugee in their own homeland as THANKS"

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another505

Junior Member
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Most i see from online world is still blaming trump and not iran for closing the strait. As everyone with 2 braincell notices that it is the US signed the mou at versailles and cant deliver.

The GGC and especially EU can act all high and might and lecture all they want but they cant do shit.

Also, where has the mighty american war experience that will surely defeat china inexperienced army achieved? They cant even beat iran!
 
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