2025 Victory Day parade thread (workup, 3rd Sept)

[bsdnf]

Btw, it seems we still don’t know the name of these two missiles?

 

[siegecrossbow]

Oh wow it actually is called CJ-1000, it wasn't just a made up name by Shilao and co. They joked that some of those numbering on new stuff has wacky logic and suggested future names like DF-10000, then followed by an overflow and the generation after that being called DF-3.

DF-10000 — when you are literally over 9000!

 

[bsdnf]

Yankee: The YJ-18C has been put into previous large-scale training. YJ-18C is called C because it will replace the 18B which has been in production for nearly 10 years but has never been made public.

wow

If I remember correctly, YJ-18B is a submarine-launched version, so it is highly confidential? Does that mean the 18C also has submarine-launched capabilities?

 

[BoraTas]

I'm very doubtful that all of these systems are in service or even in evaluation.

We would've seen all of these CCAs in flight testing if they were indeed in service. You're not going to convince me that these 6 new airframes managed to complete all stages of flight and evaluation trials whilst bypassing the prying eyes of civilian cameras and social media.

Even when it comes to the armored vehicles, it is doubtful that the new tank and IFVs have entered service when there has been little to no photos of them prior to the parade rehearsals.

It's probably just a rehash of the GJ-11 saga.

China actually has a lot of test sites in deserts and mountains that are away from the eyes. From the recent WZ-X saga we know they can keep even huge aircraft secret. I am increasingly convinced that a lot of the initial testing for sixth gens were done in secret on sub-scale models and testbed aircraft. Both for secrecy and cost effectiveness... And they wanted us to see the flight of first prototypes.

 

[RoastGooseHKer]

Yankee: The YJ-18C has been put into previous large-scale training. YJ-18C is called C because it will replace the 18B which has been in production for nearly 10 years but has never been made public.

wow

So both the YJ-18B and YJ-18C have Klub roots? Also, are both the B and C for long-range land attack similar to TLAM?

I mean the C version just look like an elongated KF-98 ALCM with TLAM-like wings and fins.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

Oh wow it actually is called CJ-1000, it wasn't just a made up name by Shilao and co. They joked that some of those numbering on new stuff has wacky logic and suggested future names like DF-10000, then followed by an overflow and the generation after that being called DF-3.

There is a problem with Cruise missile naming. Sometimes they name it CJ-100, sometimes its Df-100. Same problem with CJ-10 and DF-10. Its confusing

 

[latenlazy]

There is a problem with Cruise missile naming. Sometimes they name it CJ-100, sometimes its Df-100. Same problem with CJ-10 and DF-10. Its confusing

Maybe DF vs CJ depends on whether the missile has a high parabolic launch phase but that’s very speculative on my end.

 

[Blitzo]

If I remember correctly, YJ-18B is a submarine-launched version, so it is highly confidential? Does that mean the 18C also has submarine-launched capabilities?

That is what I thought too, but perhaps YJ-18B is actually a subsonic long range version of YJ-18 but with a conventional/Tomahawk/DF-10/Kalibr esque appearance.
YJ-18C replacing "YJ-18B" would make sense if that was the case...

 

[tamsen_ikard]

That is what I thought too, but perhaps YJ-18B is actually a subsonic long range version of YJ-18 but with a conventional/Tomahawk/DF-10/Kalibr esque appearance.
YJ-18C replacing "YJ-18B" would make sense if that was the case...

if its longer range, what will be its range compared to standard YJ-18?

 

[萌萌与猫猫]

China actually has a lot of test sites in deserts and mountains that are away from the eyes. From the recent WZ-X saga we know they can keep even huge aircraft secret. I am increasingly convinced that a lot of the initial testing for sixth gens were done in secret on sub-scale models and testbed aircraft. Both for secrecy and cost effectiveness... And they wanted us to see the flight of first prototypes.

Yes, I strongly agree with this point. The People's Liberation Army is a relatively closed group, and their bases (especially those involving classified information) are not open to the public. People who approach them may be dispersed by the police or national security agencies, and only specific journalists are allowed to report on military facilities with authorization. At the same time, the use of various foreign-made electronic devices, such as Apple phones and Tesla vehicles, is strictly prohibited within the military. These two points are very different from the US military. I believe that these strict confidentiality measures have enabled many classified weapons projects to be developed in secret for extended periods of time.