2025 Victory Day parade thread (workup, 3rd Sept)

[bsdnf]

Shilao: The Americans are working on Mako and C-HGB, trying to catch up with the PLA using not advanced methods & performance, and they haven't succeeded yet. After a month, they will see some crazy things that will make them realize that the gap is even widening.

Yankee: Americans say Russia's air-breathing and bi-conical hypersonic missiles are barbaric, so they have to develop HGV as a smart/civilized/elegant/whatever way of countermeasure. The PLA's bi-conical and HGV hypersonic missiles are barbaric, so they're developing HACM as a countermeasure. What if the PLA just show air-breathing hypersonic a month later? Then Who's barbaric? Who's civilized?

Ayi is basically repeating the conclusion of the previous preview on HCM, but it is indeed true. The narrative of fetishism is essentially untenable:

They seem to think that the barbarians from the East will never master low-altitude, high-subsonic cruise missiles with stealth, even though such weapons are already outdated.

“Just as barbarians will never use Roman shield formations.”

 

[bebops]

Scamjet airbreathing with detonation engine is the pinnacle of hypersonic missile tech. It looks China is the first one to put that into operational.

U.S has been working on it way before China did but they still haven't got one ready yet.

 

[enroger]

Scamjet airbreathing with detonation engine is the pinnacle of hypersonic missile tech. It looks China is the first one to put that into operational.

U.S has been working on it way before China did but they still haven't got one ready yet.

Something like that would be dope, PDE could start at zero speed, no booster is needed. We're not there yet though, YJ-19 still comes with a booster stage.

But seeing YJ-19 really gives me hope that the TengYun project may fly for real

 

[by78]

HQ-29.

 

[gk1713]

Princesses from several dynasties are watching steel birds

 

[by78]

Two more images of HQ-29.

 

[zhangjim]

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Apparently they are playing it safe this time, so all stuff displayed is in service, fully operational and in production. Hence alot of the "cooler" stuff was not shown.

Hopefully no more GJ-11 cases where it was delivered to the PLAAF by the time of the parade but stayed in OT&E hell for years afterward. Personally I feel like GJ-11 should have laid the stepping stone for high autonomy drones hence everything afterward could use the general architecture of the software/training, speeding up induction of newer CCAs.

Well, from the comments area, we can see that we had to give up a lot of "roles" this time.
At least the following weapons are included:
DF-27
PLZ-05B
ZBD-04B
FB-10
120mm self-propelled mortar
Mengshi 35mm SPAAG

 

[Tomboy]

SHORAD

 

[sequ]

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SHORAD

Small missiles and one gun indicates a counter drone system. Of course it can target other aircraft as well as long as they are flying low and slow.

The EO looks quite beefy, maybe even a laser based DEW.

 

[by78]

Some nice images from parade rehearsal flights.