2025 Victory Day parade thread (workup, 3rd Sept)

[Cloud_Nine_]

DF-17 is booster-glider, certainly not cruise missile. It is also widely believed that DF-27 is also booster-glider. So I don't think we should take the poster's words as fact.

I think the original Chinese text is suggesting a notional new cruise missile similar to the DF-100 on the last parade, since apparently DF-100 never showed up again and is assumed to be abandoned or only accepted in very limited numbers.

 

[taxiya]

I think the original Chinese text is suggesting a notional new cruise missile similar to the DF-100 on the last parade, since apparently DF-100 never showed up again and is assumed to be abandoned or only accepted in very limited numbers.

It is hard to interpret that way. If the poster meant new cruise missiles, why 17 and 27? PLA set a new rule of using same number for HGV and hypersonic missiles? I think the poster was way over his head in making things out of just few pixels.

 

[Temstar]

Maybe some of these "long tubes" are df-45 with 10 axels. There's even a video of it strolling down a highway. Maybe df-45 hasn't been inducted into the service yet? I remember Chinese military saying that only in-service hardware is shown. Of course, df-45 may have been inducted into the service, but won't be shown

Yankee, Shilao and Ayi said in their paid podcast among other things:

1. In terms of hypersonics, we are likely to see something new and fresh, newer than DF-27
2. In terms of ICBM, we are likely to see something pure silo-based and newer/bigger than DF-41

They liken the new ICBM to be an upgrade to Y-20, and said it's fortunate that DF-41 was paraded in 2019 or else it would be in an awkward position for this year as people would instead be expecting to see the upgraded Y-20A instead. Yankee then said this ICBM is less like a Y-20B in this analogy and more like an An-124.

Shilao said this new ICBM, freed from the constraint of having to be road mobile will be like J-20 making people accept the limitation of J-10.

They joke that they would expect The War Zone to open up a paid account at Guancha and Tyler Rogoway (aka "American Shilao") to host an extra long Bunker Talk for that week.

 

[Cloud_Nine_]

It is hard to interpret that way. If the poster meant new cruise missiles, why 17 and 27? PLA set a new rule of using same number for HGV and hypersonic missiles? I think the poster was way over his head in making things out of just few pixels.
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There are three kinds of vehicle in that pic. Personally I agree with you too.

 

[ismellcopium]

Yankee, Shilao and Ayi said in their paid podcast among other things:

1. In terms of hypersonics, we are likely to see something new and fresh, newer than DF-27
2. In terms of ICBM, we are likely to see something pure silo-based and newer/bigger than DF-41

They liken the new ICBM to be an upgrade to Y-20, and said it's fortunate that DF-41 was paraded in 2019 or else it would be in an awkward position for this year as people would instead be expecting to see the upgraded Y-20A instead. Yankee then said this ICBM is less like a Y-20B in this analogy and more like an An-124.

Shilao said this new ICBM, freed from the constraint of having to be road mobile will be like J-20 making people accept the limitation of J-10.

They joke that they would expect The War Zone to open up a paid account at Guancha and Tyler Rogoway (aka "American Shilao") to host an extra long Bunker Talk for that week.

Is this the paid chahuahui episode?

 

[Temstar]

Is this the paid chahuahui episode?

Yes, I bought that annual package when it was available last year. The livestream last night was instead about PLA anti-tank weapons

 

[Matrixdet]

It is hard to interpret that way. If the poster meant new cruise missiles, why 17 and 27? PLA set a new rule of using same number for HGV and hypersonic missiles? I think the poster was way over his head in making things out of just few pixels.
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Perhaps it's because he didn't know the model that he called it the new cruise missile, followed by the Dongfeng-17 and Dongfeng-27. To be honest, I'm really looking forward to the new air-breathing hypersonic.

 

[Kalec]

Yankee, Shilao and Ayi said in their paid podcast among other things:

1. In terms of hypersonics, we are likely to see something new and fresh, newer than DF-27
2. In terms of ICBM, we are likely to see something pure silo-based and newer/bigger than DF-41

They liken the new ICBM to be an upgrade to Y-20, and said it's fortunate that DF-41 was paraded in 2019 or else it would be in an awkward position for this year as people would instead be expecting to see the upgraded Y-20A instead. Yankee then said this ICBM is less like a Y-20B in this analogy and more like an An-124.

Shilao said this new ICBM, freed from the constraint of having to be road mobile will be like J-20 making people accept the limitation of J-10.

They joke that they would expect The War Zone to open up a paid account at Guancha and Tyler Rogoway (aka "American Shilao") to host an extra long Bunker Talk for that week.

Probably DF-51 and DF-61.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

Probably DF-51 and DF-61.

I thought the number X1 represents number of stages. So, a DF-61 will have 6 stages? hard to believe that's necessary

 

[Blitzo]

I thought the number X1 represents number of stages. So, a DF-61 will have 6 stages? hard to believe that's necessary

Where did you believe that?