One thing he mentions is that Russia detected SIGINT planes surrounding Iran in the weeks before the attack. Chinese "aggressive" intercepts of Australian and Canadian recon planes is 100% justified.
2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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Almost all the adult citizens, except voluntary Arabs, are conscripts, having served in the IDF.
Unrelated to your discussion but we've seen two different launching locations for the SAM's in urban Tel Aviv city centre, nestled between high rises. That would mean their radars are placed on top of the buildings, commercial and civilian.
A couple of thoughts:
- If Iran can precisely hit targets in heavily defended Tel Aviv with a small number of missiles, it implies they can also hit any other military target anywhere in Isreal, that means airfields, hangers, control towers, fuel depots, etc. Isreal put a censor order on all military facilities, but physics and intent doesn't change.
- As already pointed out before, Isreal is arguably much more defended than American bases, which means if US were to jump in with standoff airstrikes on Iran and make their forces legelimiate targets, it makes any ground invasion actually impossible as they'd have no ability to stage any troops without coming under attack
- Everyone's assuming IAF's operation hasn't been affected because nobody's seen footage of missile strike on their bases, but it's known that Iran can hit them and it's known Isreal is strictly censoring anything relating to them, so the assumption might not be as safe as people think.
- If Iran can precisely hit targets in heavily defended Tel Aviv with a small number of missiles, it implies they can also hit any other military target anywhere in Isreal, that means airfields, hangers, control towers, fuel depots, etc. Isreal put a censor order on all military facilities, but physics and intent doesn't change.
- As already pointed out before, Isreal is arguably much more defended than American bases, which means if US were to jump in with standoff airstrikes on Iran and make their forces legelimiate targets, it makes any ground invasion actually impossible as they'd have no ability to stage any troops without coming under attack
- Everyone's assuming IAF's operation hasn't been affected because nobody's seen footage of missile strike on their bases, but it's known that Iran can hit them and it's known Isreal is strictly censoring anything relating to them, so the assumption might not be as safe as people think.
Were those detected by flight monitoring websites? Also do helis also refuel on air?
I believe Israel has the ch-53 king stallion and sh-60 Seahawks which can be refueled mid air through refueling probe
They did high risk operations through special forces deployed from helicopters deep in Syria to destroy an underground missile/rocket manufacturing plant before so this may not be out of question
Seems like Israel is biting off a little bit too much more then it can chew and is now FAFO. Really, I wonder how long Israel can last and if any of the damage it is causing could ever be fixed and whether the Israeli economy hasn’t already collapsed yet
It didnt colapsed
If they can't make US go to war with Iran to save them, and that's not considering if US even has the ability to save them.
Well Israel just helped their ISIS ally take power in Syria, and ISIS might not be as friendly as they think if Israel find itself in a moment of weakness.