2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

Tomboy

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Are you suggesting Russian leadership not in hiding would be able to survive these kinds of drone infiltration better? The only way these kinds of drones can be stopped is with strong shorad presence and also alot of heavy human guards. Yes, Iran should have had better shorad on its air bases but they can't stop assassination in people's homes unless they are literally hiding in bunkers.
I can't believe why their homes isn't heavily guarded, top Chinese official military or otherwise lives in guarded communities secured by PLA personnel
 

obj 705A

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Is this all Israel's got? This attack didn't destroy Iranian chain of command, their decapitation strike failed. The US didn't even back them up this time so it's also politically a loss for Israel. All they achieved is a few notable kills and damaged civilian infrastructure. If Iran targets Israel factories, oil storage and power facilities Israeli economy will collapse.

Why do some of you guys suddenly turn super Anti-Iran when Iran gets attacked by Israel? They are literally the victims of Israeli aggression. Do you guys have no honor at all?
so recognizing that Iran is fked is some how hating on Iran and being with the aggressor? so would you rather be in an echo chamber that tells you "don't worry Iran is fine"?

Iran chose the wrong path. they refused to be friends of Israel & America and chose to side with Palestine/ Russia / China in a quest to change the world order and diminish US influence. that was a foolish dicision which will cost them dearly. America is the dominant force in the middle east, not Russia & not China and definitely not those 5 million Palestinians in the open air prison. if Iran chose to stand against America for honor or whatever then Iran should have aquired the nuke yet they didn't do even that and now they will pay.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Are you suggesting Russian leadership not in hiding would be able to survive these kinds of drone infiltration better? The only way these kinds of drones can be stopped is with strong shorad presence and also alot of heavy human guards. Yes, Iran should have had better shorad on its air bases but they can't stop assassination in people's homes unless they are literally hiding in bunkers.
They really tried. They got Darya Dugina, daughter of Alexander Dugin.

Russia also has a more robust internal security apparatus. They have a digital internal passport and digital surveillance. And even then, things slip through.
 

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obj 705A

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Iran was hyped a lot yet disappointed when it came to a fight. Pakistan didn't really have that much hype behind it but proved its performance in a recent fight. Wonder what caused the difference.

Iran is against a smaller guy while Pakistan is against a bigger guy.
Iran is against an Israeli/American alliance. America is the most powerful empire mankind has ever seen. and you are comparing that to India?
 

CaribouTruth

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Regarding Air Defense, Iran has a hole in its air defense and mostly in the AIR part. GBAD is not sufficient in this day and age to cover all vectors. You need air based early warning systems whether it is dedicated EW platforms or networked fighters. Iran doesn't have any of this. Makes the ground based systems very vulnerable.
 

SinoAmericanCW

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so recognizing that Iran is fked is some how hating on Iran and being with the aggressor? so would you rather be in an echo chamber that tells you "don't worry Iran is fine"?

Iran chose the wrong path. they refused to be friends of Israel & America and chose to side with Palestine/ Russia / China in a quest to change the world order and diminish US influence. that was a foolish dicision which will cost them dearly. America is the dominant force in the middle east, not Russia & not China and definitely not those 5 million Palestinians in the open air prison. if Iran chose to stand against America for honor or whatever then Iran should have aquired the nuke yet they didn't do even that and now they will pay.
Yup. Iran tried to LARP as a major power and is now paying the price of that delusion.

What Iran needs is to take a breather from geopolitics and focus on, to borrow someone's saying, 'reform and opening-up'. Whether it would be better for them to do that under a nuclear shield is a major decision they have to make - and soon.

Türkiye has a better shot at containing the Israelis / helping the Palestinians in the medium- to long-term than Iran has.
 

j17wang

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With the crushing of Iran's entire military leadership today by israel air strikes, does this present a new opening for the export of J-35 and other advanced (think beyond J-10ce) platforms to middle east countries?

If Israel can decapitate the leadership of any middle east country on a whim, we all know it aint gonna be US/European weapon systems that are going to save them.

Does a newly urgent need to address the capability gap between GCC and Israel present an opportunity for China to stop "underpricing" its now combat-proven platforms relative to their true value -> the guarantee of arab territorial sovereignty?
 
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