Yea. I believe the US also told Iran, ahead of time, where the US was going to bomb and when the US was going to do it. Performative warfare.
2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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Putin lacked the courage to supply Iran with the S-400 to take down the B-2. and now you think he will supply Iran with the necessary capabilities to harm the KSA and co. ? get real.
I think many doesn't capture the problems that the USA caused with its completly idiotic decision to bomb Its IAEA protected sites.
Now, if the Russians wants to keep Iran in the NNP treatry they (and the sino big bro) neeed to give everything that Iran needs.
Last thing that Russian needs is a nuclear Iran, but to convinve them Iran have to feel the love from the big brothers.
Love means SAMSs, Iskanders, Gerans and whwatever Iran needs. Including aircrafts manned by sending countires.
Now, if the Russians wants to keep Iran in the NNP treatry they (and the sino big bro) neeed to give everything that Iran needs.
Last thing that Russian needs is a nuclear Iran, but to convinve them Iran have to feel the love from the big brothers.
Love means SAMSs, Iskanders, Gerans and whwatever Iran needs. Including aircrafts manned by sending countires.
What took them so long in posting this?
Will take this with a little pinch of salt really.
The US also notified the Iranians in targeting those bases before hand, so nothing really changes so far except gung-ho diplomacy.
Air Supremacy?
Even the Israel's own Air force didn't admit as far as that.
I inquire you to take posts from people like OsintTechnical with a pinch of salt. They are a leading figure of the whole NAFO crowd, i would not take an OSINTer who posted memes on their main posting account as fully credible. OSINTDefender is better alternative if you're seeking for a more western centric ones.
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you are saying Iran will essentialy blackmale Russia by telling them "give us weaponry to attack the Arab gulf states or we will go nuclear".
that will never happen.
if Russia helps Iran to strike the gulf states by providing them with the weaponry then Russia will basically be sacraficing it's relations with the Arab world for the sake of Iran. does that make any sense? the only case in which Russia would do that is if they thought that the chances of the GCC regimes falling are higher than than that of the Iranian regime to fall in which case helping Iran strike the GCC would be ok.
actually not only has Iran killed any chance of getting Russian weaponry with this foolosh strike on Qatar. but Iran also killed any chance that they would get offensive weaponry from Pakistan. Pakistan will not provide weaponry to Iran that will be used against the KSA, Qatar etc..
Iran cannot produce a nuke now anyway. they lacked the courage to do it when they had the chance. and now after all their nuclear sites have either been damaged or evacuated they probably can't produce a nuke even if they wanted to.
and if Iran by any chance does produce a nuke under all this pressure then Russia wouldn't mind it. in fact secretly they would be happy. but publicly they would still oppose it and impose sanctions on Iran.
North Korea also cannot help Iran.
yesterday or maybe the day before that Medvedev was saying some very funny and delusional stuff. he said there are countries willing to to provide nukes to Iran. we know Russia and China certainly wont sell nukes to Iran. Pakistan certainly won't do that, not after the strike on Qatar. and North Korea cannot provide Iran with nukes either since these nukes would have to go through Russian territory to reach Iran and Russia won't allow it, they also can't ship them through the sea because the US will intercept them.
If losing proxies is defeat then what does that make US who, after 20 years invading Iraq and Afghanistan, lost Afghanistan completely and has Iranians militias operate freely in Iraq? Also are we just going to memory hole Yemen again?
Iran started the war poor, Israel started the war rich, Iran just need to survive to win, while Israel loses their economy and population if they keep this up. An Israel that has to ban people from leaving and settlers escaping in droves anyway is an Israel that's lost it's main national goal, not to mention putting a wrench in their genocide in Gaza, while Iran's goal is simply to maintain national unity, something Israel just helped them massively with.
Iran is fighting the combined west alone*, its not a symmetrical fight and objectives are not defined symmetrically. Vietnam won without a single bomb dropped on CONUS, while US lost despite having air superiority. Victory starts with securing oneself from defeat, Iran's weakest link was internal unity, thanks to Trump and Bibi that's link has been fixed, their goal should and is then to turn this into a protracted war, yes they will take loses, such is the nature of asymmetrical war, but while this is a foreign idea to western cultures, victories are ultimately defined by objectives, not kill count.
If course he would say that. But Russia cannot allow Iran to fall into the US orbit. Israel or no Israel.
It would open up US access to Central Asia further. A huge chunk of Russia's heavy industry and MIC is close to the border with Kazakhstan. Uzbekistan alone has about as much population as Ukraine.
It would put Russia in mortal danger. As simple as that.
It would open up US access to Central Asia further. A huge chunk of Russia's heavy industry and MIC is close to the border with Kazakhstan. Uzbekistan alone has about as much population as Ukraine.
It would put Russia in mortal danger. As simple as that.
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He has demonstrated Russia's unreliability. Where is the military equipment that Iran has contracted and paid for, but Russia has still not delivered?
IMO one of the biggest scandal here is the utter betrayal of Iran by Russia. Iran has spent billions and billions and Russia has delivered zero because apparently "Israel is almost a Russian-speaking country"
-US strikes empty Iranian nuclear facilities.
-Iran strikes empty US air bases.
Why did US do such a pointless action, was it to take off the heat Israel is getting from the international community?
-Iran strikes empty US air bases.
Why did US do such a pointless action, was it to take off the heat Israel is getting from the international community?